15 inches - Devon and Lola

Irene and Kat dive headfirst (and eyes wide) into busting the ultimate bedroom myth: the "one guy" with equipment so legendary it deserves its own zip code.

It all started when Cali spilled the tea during a swingers' getaway interview on the eternal question: "Does size *really* matter?" The girls couldn't stop whispering about **this one mythical dude** and his... let's just say *generously proportioned* situation. Cue the dramatic music—because tonight, guests, **Mr. Endowed himself (aka Devon)** and his fabulous wife **Lola** are joining us in the VXN Den!

They dish the *steamy* perks (the highs are sky-high) and the hilariously awkward everyday struggles (think: "where do I even *put* this thing?") of living with what most would call a "special gift"... or as Devon might call it, his lifelong personal battering ram.

They share laugh-out-loud stories about a very memorable penis shot gone wrong, the wild ride of the lifestyle that comes with packing serious heat, plus some mouth-watering teases about upcoming events and a sizzling LA scoop that has us on the edge of our seats!

Grab your drink—this one's equal parts comedy gold and pure thirst trap! 🔥😂

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Vixen Chronicles, Erotic Explorations and Unapologetic Talk. Today's episode title is Is It Really 15 Inches Long? We're going to get into that and probably measure it. So this is also your content warning. This show's about sex, every kind and flavor of sex. If you think any topic is not your thing, please don't listen to it. If you're under 18, you better stop listening right now, or I'm calling your mom. My more my lawyer makes me say that. This is a reminder to also submit your feedback, uh, questions, story ideas, anything to our email at infothevixenchronicles.com. It's VXN. And please follow and listen on what wherever you listen to your podcast. But our top three are Spotify, Apple, and iHeart. And you'll get notified when we publish new episodes, which should be usually every Monday, sometime during the day. Hello, Vixenhood. Welcome back and thank you for listening. I'm here tonight with my amazingly funny, smart, sexy co-host Kat. Say hello, kitten. Hello. Also, our show mascot Jolene is running around, so expect her to be barking or making some noise at some point during this show.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

Tonight on the Vixen Chronicles, a couple opens up about navigating intimacy with a 15-inch penis from myths to mechanics. We're getting the full story, the thrills, and everything in between.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Yep. So welcome, Devin and Lola.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Hello. Hello. Say hello. Hello, hello.

SPEAKER_00 1:45

Say say your sexy hellos. Hello. Oh, now it's just wait, now that was annoying hello. At any rate, Devin has a very special gift for us all. And we heard about you through Callie from the Swingers. Remember?

SPEAKER_01 2:07

So were they at the Swingers Weekend? No. I don't know. We were not.

SPEAKER_07 2:10

We were invited, actually. But no, we were not.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Yeah, you were talked about a lot. Talk of the town that night.

SPEAKER_07 2:15

Yeah, I heard. I got St. Jarel's episode like the next morning. They was like, they were talking about you on this podcast. And I was like, who?

SPEAKER_01 2:22

We were like, literally, I heard of these people. Waiting by the phone all night. We're like, we need picks. We need picks. I told my boyfriend, he's like, no, I need picks. And then literally a few days later, he's like, Did you get that picture yet?

SPEAKER_00 2:33

So we have Devon and Lola here tonight. You guys, you're a couple married, whatever, right? Yes. Got it all. A couple things. One, if people want to go to your social media, where are you going to direct them? To what to what page, whatever. Your most popular one, or to like a link tree or something.

SPEAKER_07 2:50

The easiest way, if you're looking to like find any like our content type things, lsinclusive.com or anything, meet the rileys. So if you type in meet the rileys on Google, we'll be like the first five to seven things that pop up. I love it's like pick your poison and can you spell Riley's R-I-L-E-Y.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Okay. Okay. Is there an S?

SPEAKER_07 3:11

Yes. Yeah. So Meet the Riley's on Google and stuff like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

I mean, who knows what they'll end up with if they don't put the S on.

SPEAKER_07 3:17

Well, if they if they don't, they'll actually wind up with another Meet the Riley's.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Oh, who are building toys or something on YouTube?

SPEAKER_07 3:23

No, it's crazy enough, they're actually good friends of ours. Like families, like family friends, not like family, but family friends. It's so funny. But they're like legit porn stars.

SPEAKER_04 3:32

Oh.

SPEAKER_07 3:33

Like, so if you type in us, you'll see us, and then you'll see them. Like the like the first page is essentially us or them. Wow. If you type in Meet the Riley's, yep. And you see her, you'll see Carrie Riley, Devon Riley, or Lola Riley. Yep. It's we're all there.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

We're all there. Awesome. I love that. I called my brother earlier today, and I'm like, hey, if you were gonna ask a guy anything about having a 15-inch dick or whatever size it is, right? Because, oh, by the way, we're measuring, so you're gonna have to get him hard before he leaves. Um he said, he said, the first thing I would say is when someone tells you you can go fuck yourself, like you really can.

SPEAKER_07 4:12

Literally.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

And then the next question was ask him if he's ever tried oral on himself because every guy hats when they were little, every guy has tried it. It reaches, it reaches, yes. To which one?

SPEAKER_07 4:27

Either. Either. We've we've learned some new tricks and positions, like and within different things with it.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Oh, we're gonna get into dick tricks. We are so you can't. It's wow.

SPEAKER_07 4:37

I didn't even know like those would be considered dick tricks. You know, it's just something that we did, and our friends are looking at us like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 4:43

Oh, I like it.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

I like it.

SPEAKER_07 4:44

It just happens.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

About 15 inches. I started this thing every year.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

You do stare at it. And and again, this is my ex-husband and I used to collect glass art, and he bought this one, and I wasn't crazy about it, but he gave it to me in the divorce, and I think he was pretty telling pretty much telling me to go fuck myself. But we actually have a great relationship. Thank you, Scott. That's not the issue, yes. Okay, so there's been some debate about whether it's really 15 inches or not. So we have the tape measure here, right? Okay, so you need to figure out how you're getting hard before you leave here today. You've got a lot of women in this room. Okay, my first, we're gonna do some icebreaker questions. When did you lose your virginity? What age?

SPEAKER_07 5:30

You go first.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

I was 16. Oh, okay. So you thank you. That's socially acceptable to me. Well 12 is not okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

No guy virginity. Girl virginity, I was 14. So being with a girl. Oh, gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

So okay, I want to talk about that because also another previous guest was saying that too. Like, how were you just bicurious back then? Or was it more because she said it was more of a thing where boys weren't allowed to come over, but girlfriends could. So then girlfriends would come over for sleepovers, and that's kind of when the exploring happened. Or how did you think about that's that's right. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

Okay, and how old were you, Devon? I was 13. Again, way too young. Agreed. Way too young. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 6:15

Agreed. Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

Okay, so uh talk to us about that. Was it just somebody you knew?

SPEAKER_07 6:19

No, so actually, two no, I lied. Yeah, I knew the person, don't get me wrong, it was my girlfriend. It was my girlfriend at the time, like we were dating, but I I have to say that the upbringing that I was that I had versus Lola would be totally different. Whereas there weren't necessarily parents at my house 24-7, because one parent household, either she's working or not in the house. I come home from school. There's just a lot for us to have gotten into the age that I was where I've lived, plenty of kids, but not many that fit my school age. Okay. So all of my friends were either three years older or yeah. Yeah. Because I didn't really at 13, you don't want to hang out with younger kids, like you want to hang out with the older, cool kids. So most of the time I'm running around our neighborhood like unsupervised for days, it feels like. But I just I noticed that it's a whole lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Like, I think we kind of all, you know, for sure.

SPEAKER_07 7:11

It was it wasn't necessarily safe or not, because I lived in the bad part, but we my all the people that was on the bad stuff was everybody I knew or related. So I was safe anyways. Yeah, I was like, either way, you were safe. It was like the safe danger thing, and so it was just it was always older conversations that were happening that none of us should have been having or doing, anyways. Yeah, and to feel cool, I was like, Well, they're doing it, they're doing this, and I it just it was just one of the things that happened, and that's not just happening, like we her, obviously, her and I talked about it, and then it was you know, opportunity met.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

And how old was she? Oh older, obviously.

SPEAKER_07 7:51

She no, we were the same age.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

Oh, you were?

SPEAKER_07 7:53

Yeah, so I was 13. It was on her 13th birthday.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_07 7:59

And her mom worked late too. So like it was just like that, like that era of us growing up, like it was like the end of the, you know, the whoever the generation was before us.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Okay, we witness all the time. We don't know. We don't know, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 8:13

One of them or whatever, whoever. So them old people who always swear we're not we're you all are millennials, and you're not meaning the way they think they are. Yeah, it's a debate. So we came at the at the end of the latchkey kids, okay, essentially. And that was just one of them things where we were just alone a lot.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Did she was she a virgin?

SPEAKER_07 8:32

Yes. Okay. And so was I.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

Did other stuff come first, though, like were blowjobs or finger banging? I know that was popular back in the day, like for us at our age. And we're about the same as well.

SPEAKER_07 8:41

Like those things happened, but it wasn't like you and her yeah, it wasn't a lot of foreplay leading into us having sex because hell, we didn't know the fuck we were doing.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Same. I feel like at that age, I didn't not at all.

SPEAKER_07 8:50

Yeah, you just you just don't know. So we were just kind of bumping it around and filling into the night kind of thing to see what would happen.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

Okay, so you run her for life.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

Um, yeah, were you always this big?

SPEAKER_07 9:03

So that's like that's a limited question, believe it or not. Okay, I call it a balloon animal because it can grow to the size you need. Oh, so and it's also gonna be with a thousand percent to deal with my comfort like comfortability or whatever you want to call it. Yeah, yeah, how comfortable you are. If I'm yeah, if I'm super relaxed and enjoying whatever's going on, that thing's gonna look like a damn bat. Versus if it's cold outside and I'm not really like stimulated in any kind of way, it looks like a damn baby button. Which I was kidding. I mean, it gets down small to a button and it goes to I think you're lying on that, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

No, that's the truth. So it goes to like a normal flaccid size, beyond, but then it's huge, like thickness, the girth.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

I I sent you the videos, yeah. Okay, yeah. Yeah, he has the girth too.

unknown 9:51

Watch.

SPEAKER_07 9:52

No, and to be fair, in none of those videos or pictures y'all have seen, it was ever at its full erect.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

I figured that just based on what you just said.

SPEAKER_07 9:59

There's one there's one picture that I have of me that it's fully. Is it the one that we saw sent? Was it Scooby-Doo hat?

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Scooby-doo hat head. Oh, yeah, you had some kind of mask on. Yes, yes. If that was the one, then that's yeah, because it was cooled down to your knee. Right.

SPEAKER_07 10:13

It was dark in that room at night, so you really couldn't see that much either. But it's that's the only picture I've ever taken where I am full capacity.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Okay, so when you're 13 and you're taking this girl's virginity, as well as your own, right? At that point, you didn't know like it, what you didn't know if it was was it that big then, like while you're having sex with her.

SPEAKER_07 10:34

At that point, I had a complex because I had sorry, I had a complex of not knowing because you didn't want to be the guy that it all it takes is one girl to say, Oh, he got a little, he got a little PP. And you're fucked until you get out of high school. Like, regardless if you're fucked or not. Exactly. And so when I I had somebody who yelled it, because I think I did something dumb. And like I used to flash people, I'd run, like if we went on a trip, we went in a hotel. I made it a habit of I get butt naked, I'm running around this hotel room, jumping on every bed.

SPEAKER_04 11:03

I believe that.

SPEAKER_07 11:04

So I did that, and somebody yelled at oh, you said a big thing, thing. And I was like, Is it is it bad? Like, why? Because I'm not hearing them yell at to everybody else, right? So, like, I don't, I'm like, the nails I'm over, like, oh, I ain't pulling this out no more. And I never knew, and I kid you not, it wasn't until I got to the lifestyle that I realized that I was well above average penis size.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

Well, and how old were you then?

SPEAKER_07 11:26

We were that was five years ago. Okay, wait a second.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

So you didn't know that you like growing up, you didn't realize that you were much bigger than the average. No, I mean, you're not even the average, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

I mean, you're bigger than like porn stars, right?

SPEAKER_07 11:39

Oh, for sure. I've I've been told by porn stars. Yeah, but it's been verified by porn stars. It was like, damn, you've got more dick than this whole party has inches. Like, and I was like, Oh, thanks, I think. It's kind of like women trying to take a compliment.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

It's like but you didn't realize it until five years ago. Like, did you have high school gym? Were you in?

SPEAKER_07 11:58

I went to a small school, we didn't get naked in the locker room, we didn't do the shower thing, nothing.

SPEAKER_05 12:03

Okay, no sports sports type of stuff.

SPEAKER_07 12:05

I played every I played every sport known to man.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

But yeah, okay, so it wasn't.

SPEAKER_07 12:08

We were just never naked. And to be fair, again, the time I'm growing up, clothing and culture is different. So we're wearing, if I'm like if I say I'm 13, 14 right now, I've got these blue jeans on, but under these blue jeans, there's a pair of basketball shorts that are a pair of briefs underneath.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

Got it. Growing up, okay.

SPEAKER_07 12:23

Yeah, growing up because that was and one era basketball time. So anytime a basketball game can break out, I gotta be ready. So I can strip these jeans off and I'm ready to hoop.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

But then, like, did you have to have them custom made? Did it hang out the bottom?

SPEAKER_07 12:34

That's why I wore briefs. I stopped wearing boxes at like 10. Yeah, but I consciously didn't understand why. I just knew in gym class, it's flopping around. And I was like, Yeah, I gotta put that up. So I started wearing briefs. I've worn briefs since 10 or 11 years old, so it's always at least compressed and just yeah, out the way.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 12:51

And the random hard-ons that young, like young men get all the time. Yeah, it is rough. Like, you're like, I was sitting in class and I'm just looking like I got a learning I'm like shocked because as a boy mom, I'm just like, I grew up with sisters on mom.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Like, oh no, boys get them all the time, and it's and they're totally, but now I'm like thinking about like that stuff happens at school and all that.

SPEAKER_07 13:12

Yeah, I'm sitting at that. I gotta give the boy some briefs. Yeah, I'm doing math, and I'm like, why the hell is nothing to like it's sexy about triangles? What is happening? It's not it was not fun or comfortable.

SPEAKER_06 13:25

So that's funny.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

Yeah, I and I think that's just the hormones running through your body, from what I understand. But as a woman who grew up with all brothers and then had three boys, it was like you you just know those things. It's it's like they happen anywhere, anyhow, anytime. There's no rhyme or reason.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

My kids like asking me, like thinking he's starting to go through puberty at 10 years old because he's like, I'm getting arm here, I'm getting hair on there. I'm like, I don't know. I I was messing with him telling him, like, did you get your period yet? He's asking, What's gonna happen? I was like, this is a talk, like a conversation for you to have with your dad. Why don't you call him and ask him about the time he got his first period and you're talking out? That is great.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

I'm telling you, she is my match for torturing her children.

SPEAKER_07 14:07

I'm the same way, I'm the same too. Like, listen, you know, you leg gonna fall off if you're right. Yeah, I am. I'm gonna answer to you.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

You don't eat meat and you don't eat protein, you're gonna be short. Like like your dad. Yeah, literally, literally. And he's like, What do you want for dinner? And I said, I want steak.

SPEAKER_04 14:21

I'm like, we never want steak.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

Yeah, he's sending me his Christmas list, and there's like these sh things you insert in your shoe to make you taller.

SPEAKER_07 14:28

Yeah, you gotta be taller like no shoe lifts.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

So, how did you guys first meet?

SPEAKER_02 14:33

We met on Tinder.

unknown 14:34

Really?

SPEAKER_02 14:35

You met on Tinder?

SPEAKER_00 14:36

Okay, and then uh I'm assuming okay, how did you Lola? How did you first hear Lauren about his big dick? When he said he had dick pic.

SPEAKER_07 14:47

I didn't see it until we had sex. Divine. I stopped sending dick pics a long time ago.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

Now me, I would have been like, oh my god, yes, please come over.

SPEAKER_07 14:55

No, that's not the response I get.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

How okay, I want to know though. Like, so you met on Tinder. Was it sexual right away? Did you guys try to wait? I was looking for sex that night.

SPEAKER_07 15:04

I was I was just trying to sell products because I've had products. Yeah, I've had a business like I've done my own business since like 2015. I did herbal life, so I was oh okay, essentially, yeah, wherever I wanted to go was my office. So what I was like, I had the bright idea. I was like, hmm, there's a whole app out there that can tailor my my my audience that I'm looking for. So I can go on and find curvy women, or I can find women who are this size or this, that a third. You are so smart. You can chat them up, big skinny, whatever I need it. And sometimes I come across attractive women and be like, hey, they respond.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

And weirdly enough, I do that for our podcast. It's it's not too long into it that I say, I've got to work on my podcast tonight. The first question is, what is it? And then I'm like, oh, well, it's this. And then of course, then of course it turns very sexual at that point because of the name of our podcast. So yeah, I do it all the time. And so you and I are just marketing geniuses as well. Yeah, that really is.

SPEAKER_07 16:03

It never the brain never turns off. The the business marketing never turns off. I think it's sick of me hearing like hear me talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

I love you.

SPEAKER_07 16:10

We I loved you at the moment we talked anyway. So I don't know. I was like, we like her.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

Okay, so you guys met on Tinder. You did not sext, which is unusual these days. I think it turns sexual very fast. I'm not normal.

SPEAKER_07 16:21

I wanted it sexual very fast. I'm not normal. I don't I don't consider myself the typical guy. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

I love that because it's such a turnoff, I feel like, when the men yeah, like I mean, I'm not single, but I haven't been, but like when I was on those dating apps, I'm just like, uh, like seriously, another like we'll get to that point. I'm gonna see your dick, but like we're all here for the same thing.

SPEAKER_07 16:41

We understand that, but can you get let it warm up? Okay, you can't just jump in a car and it in zero degree degree weather.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

I mean, you can, but it's not gonna it's not gonna go very well. I mean, we have, but we may not be normal either. Yeah, okay. So you guys, you you met on Tinder. Then did you just like go on a date and then explain this? I want the whole story. And then Lola, I'm gonna want your piece of this too.

SPEAKER_07 17:07

We we we match on Tinder or whatever. I see that she's in Louisville. I lived in Frankfurt at the time, and so what had happened, I would go up there to uh Dorashore or something like that. So I knew she's in Louisville. Hey, two birds, one stone, let's go do this. So I I go up to visit, she's got a roommate. We kind of introduce in my brain, it's we gotta have a conversation, so at least I can say, Yeah, I went try to sell some products. Outside of that, it was I knew it was a sexual tension, but we got in the room, we hung out, and then I left.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_07 17:40

That was it? Maybe 15 minutes. Could you not just walk in and we chatted a little bit and I left?

SPEAKER_01 17:44

You got a hotel, is what you said? Nope, we was at her restaurant. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I thought it said hotel.

SPEAKER_07 17:49

I adapted at her house.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Okay. So you left. And then what what were you thinking, Lola?

SPEAKER_02 17:55

Were you like, Well shit. Yeah. I gotta find somebody else.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

Because he's super he's super cute, right? I mean, he's just super cute.

SPEAKER_02 18:01

Yes, he was.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

So, and he's got a great smile. Oh my god. Truly great smile. Million dollar fucking smile for real. So, okay. So then you're like, did you reach back out to him and go, Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 18:14

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

Yeah. We're like, oh, I'm gonna get him like she was like, What happened? Yeah, I was like, but we didn't have fun.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

How long did you wait to reach back out?

SPEAKER_02 18:24

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_07 18:26

I think I think we were like continuously texting still. Oh, and you know, she was kind of like like why like we the comment like obviously that came back up. She was like, I was trying to fuck. And I was like, Oh well, you didn't say that. I was like, I I I was just trying to come be nice, be a gentleman, you know, come say hi, get a hug, at least get to meet you.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Usually guys, you know, come over for that. Right. If you're off twent tender, yeah, that's amazing, actually.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Okay, so when did you guys uh I assume you didn't know the next time I came back over? Oh, okay, got it.

SPEAKER_07 18:57

Yeah, at that point, she was like, Look, if you come back over, I'm I'm pulling your dick out. And it was so when I came back over, it wasn't even much conversation. And she was like this. And I was like, wait a minute, hold on. So it was after that, but mind you, she still never saw it.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

Right. And then I saw it, I was like, Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

So, okay, so he so you're playing with him, you're like, okay, this is big. It's getting hard, right? You're you're like, this is big. Then you pull it out. No, I think I just pulled it out.

SPEAKER_07 19:24

Yeah, you just smack it on my butt.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Oh my god. So what was your first thought when you saw it?

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Clearly, it's huge.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

I want this.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Okay, good. So clearly he was comfortable enough around you to make that.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

Did he get his big like did he get the full-blown 15? No. No, okay. No, no.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

Okay. So it was like the gift that keeps on giving. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

I love that. So you so you loved your sex the first time. Yes. And then then from that point on, how often did you guys have sex? Like every day, a couple times ago.

SPEAKER_07 20:01

No, because magic, I still lived in Frankfurt.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 20:05

And there was a small caveat to me, you living in Frankfurt. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

We've all been there. It's okay. There we go. Yeah, we've all been there.

SPEAKER_07 20:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

So I was married and like unhappily married or like trying to separate, but just couldn't.

SPEAKER_07 20:23

No, so it wasn't even so much like trying to separate. At the time, it was I had mentally checked out. Okay. Like so much of what happened in those early years versus now, I understand why a lot of those things were happening for me at least. And I was, you know, in a marriage when we hooked up and hung out. I didn't see her again after that.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 20:45

So it was actually it was like two months.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

Yeah, it was like two months.

SPEAKER_07 20:48

It was like two months, didn't see or talk.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

But you were thinking about her. Well, yeah. I got this video from his chicken little sex ass.

SPEAKER_07 20:56

And I was like, but so when I my wife and I separated.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

Right after that?

SPEAKER_07 21:04

Two months later. Okay, okay. So like this was let's say, what was it? Not let's say it was 2020. It was 2020 when we met and hung out, like the end of it. I separated from my wife like January 8th, 2021.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 21:17

I know the day still, because I was yeah, yeah, I danced. Um they the after that I got a hotel room because I stayed, I moved out of the house. Okay. Like that day she called me. I was like, yeah, just bring my stuff down to the work, please. Thank you. And I went to a hotel like that week. And so I'm bored. It was I was like, man, right now I'm scrolling through stuff. I was like, oh shit, let me see what she's doing. Yeah. She came back and hung out with me this time in Lexington. And when we met and hung out, we were together every weekend after that. Yeah. I know literally from that moment.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

That's so cool.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Did you guys, since you were together, you were living in a hotel then? Was your next place then? Did you guys move in together? Were you guys okay?

SPEAKER_07 22:03

So after that, I actually moved in with a friend in Lexington because I was actually opening up a brand new business. So I was like, not really needing to rush and to go get another apartment or whatever. So my friend was like, just stay with me until your store opens. And I was like, perfect. So during that building phase of like a couple months, like during the week, I'd go work on my store and then weekend we would get together.

SPEAKER_05 22:24

Oh.

SPEAKER_07 22:24

And we went from hanging out at a hotel room for a week to a swinger party.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

Like, well, he introduced me. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

So let's talk about that. How did you get into it? Like, how did that happen?

SPEAKER_07 22:38

So I had actually found the lifestyle when I was in college. Okay. So like I had every guy, I don't care what the hell they tell you, every guy has thought about a threesome or orgy or a sex party or something because most of the audience assume that it's real. They assume that it's real, but they don't know where or how to find it. Yes. Yeah. I still didn't either. I came across, I think, a group on like Yahoo Groups or some shit.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

I didn't even know that was a thing.

SPEAKER_07 23:02

Yeah, neither did I. And when I did, I found a party.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Bingo.

SPEAKER_07 23:07

Yeah. They were advertising it. I was like, oh, sex party. I was like, damn, it sounds fun. So I found somebody. We went together to this party.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

You and a female.

SPEAKER_07 23:16

Yeah. Okay. And I walk into this party and I was like, the fuck is this? I was like, this is not what I thought these were.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 23:23

And I I was done after that. I never went back to it.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

It was a bad experience. It was really. But why? What was happening?

SPEAKER_07 23:30

So so much versus what I know now versus what I saw introduced to. It's to me that what was happening was not lifestyle. So I walk in, of course, there's people around mingling and stuff, but I I I pay attention to energy, people, body language, and everything else. So I can feel people like you know talking crap in the corner. You see, like the drama. Yeah, I'm like, nobody else is paying attention to this shit. I was like, it's so uncomfortable in here. Remember, I told you I always got yeah it depends on how big I get, how comfortable I am. Yeah. Beyond uncomfortable. That that thing was inverted.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Did you participate that in anything? Hell no. Okay. I couldn't.

SPEAKER_07 24:03

I I walked in, I was like, it's just so much of everything, and that was just wrong. Energy, the way people are acting, just the respect level. There wasn't any. There was nothing about that that said lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 24:15

It was literally just the sex party of a bunch of crackheads and drug dealers. Oh, yeah, that doesn't work. It was honestly what it is, that that situation was nothing but more than a prostitution like front cover-up. It's a front. Yeah. Not even a front. It's blatantly. Like, like because again, we now run our own group and things like that. So we understand the mechanics of where it should be. That is pure like sent a text out.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

So you experienced that before Lola. And then you apparently found another place that I'll let you tell this.

SPEAKER_07 24:46

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

Wait, so you went there, you were done.

SPEAKER_07 24:49

Done.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

And so I'll give you this is before you met Lola?

SPEAKER_07 24:51

I was 19, 20. Okay. Okay. Going to that?

SPEAKER_01 24:54

And never experienced again until you guys got together.

SPEAKER_07 24:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

Well, he basically just asked me if I've ever ever had a threesome or if I wanted to. And I was like, fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

Yeah. But had you ever done that before? No.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Lola.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Are you doing Lola or Divine?

SPEAKER_07 25:10

Well, then I yeah, I had a threesome by then.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 25:14

But not necessarily like lifestyle related, just threesome stuff. I did two.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

And I think I was, I mean, I participated in lifestyle stuff, but I didn't know it was a thing. Right. Because I've been with couples and women.

SPEAKER_07 25:25

She was doing lifestyle shit and didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

What's the difference then? Like, because you say lifestyle, but then there's threesomes. Like, how would you just like what would you say is the difference between like just going out and having your own threesome? But then there's the lifestyle. What makes it different?

SPEAKER_02 25:42

I think with lifestyle, you have more of a connection, more of a I don't know, a friendlier.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

Well, and you you build a bond with people.

SPEAKER_07 26:01

Right. It's not more than just a hookup.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, exactly. Which I've had threesomes that are just a hookup. So nice. Yeah. Did okay, so how did you guys get to this point where you are now? So you had had a threesome before, but and you had too, Devon. But so how did you decide that you're going to create this lifestyle world?

SPEAKER_07 26:23

So I I think creating the lifestyle world at the time wasn't necessarily on our brain. More so is just trying to go out and just have fun.

SPEAKER_04 26:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 26:31

There's there's swinger websites, of course. So I made a profile, I made a couple's profile because a single male in the lifestyle doesn't or do and fare as well as a couple or exactly period. Yeah. I'm smart enough to understand and know that. All right, cool. I had a profile, it was a single, I was like, let me fix his changes. Let's do a party. We get messaged by a couple, it was like, hey, we're having a house party. Mind you, the last experience I've had with any kind of event party, not fun. So we go. I found this couple, they messaged us, hey, come to this place. This is Airbnb, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All right. So I warned her about everything that I knew. Like, if we get here and it's anything like I've seen, yeah, it doesn't feel right.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

Right.

SPEAKER_07 27:10

Probably going to say, let's go. So she's like, cool. So we get there. Our good friend at now walks out. He's like, Hey, I'm so and so nice to meet you all. He picks our bag up, good energy. Walks us inside, introduced us to everybody there. I look at her and I was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Now, was this your first time you two together being with anyone else? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

And how long how long have you been seeing each other at that point? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 27:35

We did we we were just hanging out still.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

Oh, okay. Okay. So you weren't you weren't in a committed relationship at that point. No. Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_07 27:44

But they didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Right.

SPEAKER_07 27:46

They don't exactly like they didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

When you're bringing her, I'm in.

SPEAKER_07 27:52

Yeah, this is my wife. Yeah, what you mean? Yeah, no, no, back up. What's happening?

SPEAKER_00 27:55

She is so beautiful. I and honestly, from the moment uh we met last night, obviously, but I looked at you and I'm like, oh my God, she's so pretty. Yeah. And then you exude sex. And Kat and I do too. We love it. And when you feel somebody who exudes sex, you're you're you bond with them. Yeah. So at any rate, I don't know. I don't know if you know that about yourself or not, but I wanted to tell you that. Okay, so you guys met with them and then it was cool. You had so tell us what you guys did for your first.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Oh no. Well, because you're drinking, right? At this point? No. No. No. We still don't know. Yeah, I don't know what happened. No drinking, no drugs involved, nothing.

SPEAKER_07 28:38

Besides marijuana and alcohol. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:40

I just I went to the bathroom, came out, and I just passed out.

SPEAKER_07 28:45

Like collapsed. Not just like she didn't like lay down to go to sleep.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

She just kind of. But after that, we were upstairs, and I mean it it was fine because we had some people up there that was talking to us. Meanwhile, we're sitting here talking, having a conversation, sucking his dick, having a conversation with somebody else.

SPEAKER_07 29:03

That we just met.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Yeah. I was like, this is you know, this is normal.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

That's funny. Okay, so you guys you spent the night there, did the whole thing. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Is that what normally happens is you go to these parties? No. No. Not at all. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 29:16

So what was crazy was our friend was like, the one we now call for.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

That was your first time meeting him, though.

SPEAKER_07 29:21

First time meeting everybody in this house. There are 33 people in this house. And the guy's house? No, it's an Airbnb. We've never met a single person in this place.

SPEAKER_04 29:29

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 29:29

And he walks up and he after obviously that she gets sick, he walks up, checks on it. He was like, Hey, you need anything? Well, whoop, here's water, here's this. He's like, Take that upstairs bedroom. It's yours. You can lock the door, you can have it the rest of the night.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Wow. Oh, wow. Okay. Like so 33 people in this house, but they're not all spending the night, is what you're saying. Not at all. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 29:50

Only like seven at the main nine. Nine at the time were actually the ones staying in the house. So we made 11 of those people.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

And and then, like, because you guys weren't really committed yet. I mean, I assume you fucked other people and did whatever. No.

unknown 30:06

No.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

I stayed there with her all night. You did? No. Okay, but wait, then, oh, because she was sick.

SPEAKER_07 30:11

I got so well.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

Well, she was fine after.

SPEAKER_07 30:13

Yeah, so once we got upstairs, we also found out she had a corset on that she tied way too tight. So I've never worn a corset before. She took it off and was like, whoa.

SPEAKER_03 30:21

I was like, oh my god, I can breathe.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

It's like that's probably you weren't getting enough oxygen to your brain, probably. Yeah, that makes sense. You guys didn't have a th a third person join you at all?

SPEAKER_02 30:30

I was literally talking to somebody while fucking dick. He was right here talking to me. Yeah, they joined, but they were just talking. Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

Wow, that's funny. Oh my god. Okay. So that's your first time together. Then what happens? Like, how does it transpire? Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_07 30:45

Well, we went to Well, to be fair, we woke up the next morning, and the people that stayed the night were in the house still. Imagine all night long, there's like a th th thing. Dang who's that? Hours, hours that night. Yeah. I was like, who the fuck is upstairs fucking all night? Well, the next morning wake up, come to find out. It was our friend that had came out and met us and brought us up and was like, hey, you can have the room.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

He's a damn jackrabbit.

SPEAKER_07 31:11

Oh my God. And wow. The rest of the house, we walk out the room. There's a two of our friends now. Like that core nine people are family to us. Yeah. Two of them are in this room over just laying on the bed. And they was like, We thought y'all left. We like, nah, we're still here. Still here. And they was like, well, damn, we for sure thought we ran y'all off. We thought y'all scared y'all. That's funny. Nope. Walk downstairs. There's two of our other good friends and one husband sitting in the middle.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

This husband sitting in the middle, sitting in Indian style. Sitting between the two women right here and just sitting there like this. Was he naked? He was naked. He was going naked in Indian style.

SPEAKER_07 31:48

He looked like a toddler that just got in trouble. He looked like he just gotten in trouble. He's sitting crisscross applesauce or whatever you want to call it. Right.

SPEAKER_04 31:55

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_07 31:56

And so we was like, okay. We was like, hey, by the way, your wife upstairs won't you? And he was like, okay, move. And so somebody was like, don't get his wife. And we was like, hey. They won't. Anyways, we walked off. We walk off. So we go.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

You two are dressed at this point, actually. Fully dressed.

SPEAKER_07 32:12

We're like about to like leave. Like we got our stuff on because nobody else is there at this point. Right. We walk by a bathroom. The door is open.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_07 32:20

And we look in another one of our friends sitting on the toilet. Oh. He's he's got this fucking neck brace on. He just had neck surgery like two days before.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Oh my god. Two days? Like several.

SPEAKER_07 32:33

Like not, it was not much like sooner before the party. Yeah. Yeah. He should be in bed still recovering. My man is on the toilet. Like, hey, can you call I know they don't care? Yeah, can you call my car, my wife Christy? We tell her to come in here, please. Like, he's sitting like can't move. And I don't know where it came from, but there was shit on the wall. Wait, like shit? Real shit?

SPEAKER_00 32:56

From him? Yes. Yeah, I'm telling.

SPEAKER_07 32:59

It was him. I'm telling. His shitty bill. Yeah, I'm telling. That was him. Listen, because he had these explosive shits. I don't know where it came from. But there's shit on the wall. He's got a neck brace on. He can't wipe his ass.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

This is the date.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

No. You're coming out, walking out. This is what we see. He had to have his wife come and walk wipe him.

SPEAKER_07 33:18

I guarantee you she didn't. She'd be like, I ain't touching this shit. Like, I fucking love him.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

Oh my god. That's wild.

SPEAKER_07 33:24

Then we finally found a friend that was jackhammering all night. He was still snoozing.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. So when when people are doing these parties and stuff, are there normally drugs involved or no?

SPEAKER_07 33:36

It depends on where you're at and what you're okay with and what's involved.

SPEAKER_01 33:39

I'm thinking like Molly or something, maybe weed or weed Molly.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

Nothing like nothing hard.

SPEAKER_07 33:45

Yeah, there's not gonna be meth or heroin, nothing.

SPEAKER_01 33:47

Well, no, I mean like when I say drugs, I mean like yeah, party. You're thinking festival raids. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, to keep it up on a Adderalls.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

Yeah, well, and I was thinking Viagra, Cialis, that kind of stuff too.

SPEAKER_07 33:57

All of that. All there, it all happens, but it also matters what group and entity of people you're around. So now not every party and club you go to is gonna have that.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 34:07

But now you'll see some people who are having a little more fun than other people, and you're like, Yeah, I want what they're on.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

So do most of the clubs they don't allow it. Okay, that's what I was I was thinking. The clubs don't allow it, but people still get it in type of thing. Yeah, I mean, they don't you're not pat they don't patch you down.

SPEAKER_07 34:23

It's just like don't be a dick and don't do cocaine in the bathroom, please.

SPEAKER_00 34:28

I actually saw a sign yesterday that literally said that it was it was at a restaurant.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

I'm surprised you don't have one.

SPEAKER_00 34:33

Yeah, I I think I might, but it actually said, please don't do cocaine in the bathroom. I mean it was at a restaurant.

SPEAKER_07 34:40

Yeah. Damn women.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Oh well, so okay. So Lola, so you have sex with him. This is, I mean, pro did you have sex with him that night too, or not? You were giving him a blowjob.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

No, no, we did not.

SPEAKER_07 34:54

I don't think I can't remember whatever breakfast.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

At what point I know I sucked your dick, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

At what point though, did you realize like the extent of how big his dick could get? Were you already past that by the time you went to the swingers club? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

So early on?

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

I'd say after a couple parties.

SPEAKER_07 35:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

And then that Scooby-Doo picture.

SPEAKER_07 35:17

Yeah. Where was it actually? That was that was months later.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

That's when I saw that it was that. Yeah, yeah. Hell yeah, that's what everybody saw.

SPEAKER_07 35:25

That's what I was shocked.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

Right.

SPEAKER_07 35:27

Y'all laughing. I am serious.

SPEAKER_00 35:30

But wait a minute. Oh my god, I have so many questions.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

Yeah, wait. So you guys have just you guys weren't even official yet, and you guys just full force jumped into the lifestyle together. Yeah. That's wild. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 35:41

Like, yeah, I'm not judging. No, I think it's wild though. And I love that you both were so open-minded about it. I do too. Okay, so when did it get better? Because clearly it wasn't that time either. Oh, this shit was hilarious.

SPEAKER_07 35:54

This shit was great.

SPEAKER_05 35:55

It was still a great time. Oh, it was.

SPEAKER_07 35:57

And that's what made it like that much fun. So, like, like, don't let me, you know, paint the wrong picture about the shit and all the stuff being on the wall. Like, it was still it kept adding into everything that had just been going on all night long. So, like, that same guy had like earlier that night walked by the room butt naked and was like picking on the guy that was talking to us.

SPEAKER_04 36:16

Yeah. And he talked to the job.

SPEAKER_07 36:18

Yeah, Bob comes in. The Bob is the technology guy, but we'll call him Bob. Bob is who came in, sat down, talked to us. If you looked at him, he sounds like Hank Hill. And they're talking computer stuff, and he's sitting on the bed next to us, you know, Chriss Cross happens off. His wife is outside playing, having a blast. He's in here talking to us about computers and shit while she's giving me a blowjob. Then, you know, Keith walks by and is fucking neck braced talking about if you see something like speak up, you know, just walking back. Now, mind you, they're older. They're older than us. Yeah, we're the youngest ones. We're the youngest ones in this group now because we wake up and we're like, we like y'all.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Yeah, and they were like, That's awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 36:54

We thought we scared y'all off. We was like, nah, we won't in. And they was like, Oh shit, maybe they're crazy too. Of course we are. You just don't know yet. That's so funny. And we started a group text with them like immediately after. So I was like, hey, we appreciate y'all, you know, bringing us in, being nice, generous, offering this to the third. They was like, Oh, yeah, well, y'all want to go to the party with us next weekend?

SPEAKER_02 37:13

Sure.

SPEAKER_07 37:13

Huh?

SPEAKER_02 37:16

Oh, that was no. That was the cabin trip. Oh, yeah. The cabin trip. That was our first cabin trip. We basically a group gets a whole bunch of cabins and they one big ass cabin. One big ass cabin.

SPEAKER_07 37:28

There were 70 people.

SPEAKER_00 37:30

70 people. 70 people. Holy shit. How can we do that? That is I mean, I'm thinking logistics here. That's just sex everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 37:39

You would think.

SPEAKER_01 37:40

That's yeah, okay, wait. Timing wise. Explain to me, somebody that like I've never had a threesome. I've never been part of that lifestyle. Obviously, I've thought about it. But like what just explain to me what is that like? Like me, somebody that knows nothing, I'm thinking, like, okay, there's a cabin, there's seven people, everybody's just fucking everywhere.

SPEAKER_07 37:58

Everything is sex, body fluids everywhere. Yeah, just like so.

SPEAKER_01 38:03

And then there's the sex clubs, and there's like, I don't even know what the rules are for the sex clubs. Like, you know, I think of like the red light, green light, yellow parties they have. Yeah, yeah. What tell them walk walk us through that? Like, how does that work?

SPEAKER_07 38:16

I so I'll I'll always start with there's a difference between a swinger and somebody who is into lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00 38:23

Oh, please explain. Yeah, that's yeah, so we don't know that yet.

SPEAKER_07 38:26

So essentially, like how you were all were asking uh what's y'all? Y'all said something about like did did we just have a threesome or something like it? What's the difference between being threesome and going doing this and a third? So essentially, you finding the original term of swingers is you know, swapping wives and all that stuff. So yeah, you you go find a couple, y'all swap. That's that's swinging.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 38:47

Then you walk go your separate ways. Lifestyle more so is we build, we enjoy and build on the community, the relationships, the connections, the this, that, and the third. You may play with them multiple times. You may play on and off, you may play once and then be best friends forever to take a fucking cruise together.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

It's not like, hey, we're gonna swap partners. If I'm taking your girl, you gotta take my guy type of thing. It's like just fully open. It's more so like you have a bond with everybody. There's not really like strict rules, it's everybody's open, and it's a lot of conversation.

SPEAKER_07 39:18

Okay, it's what people don't understand. There is so much fucking communication.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

It sounds like real friendships, too.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

It's not lifelong friends, like yeah, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_07 39:27

People from our first party and people who look at like I I consider several lifestyle people like family. Like I yeah, y'all heard me say, like, my family, uh friends. I would call them first before I call actual family members. Yeah, if I'm in trouble.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Wow. So you guys, I mean they will come down. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_07 39:45

That part, you build it, they will come.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

You build it.

SPEAKER_07 39:47

Okay. Actually, that we actually had to call one of our friends at 4 a.m. because I got arrested one night. Yeah, it wasn't my fault. Right, it's never your fault. We had a oh, it wasn't. It really wasn't this time, I promise. We was actually here in Ohio when it happened. Yeah, we were in Youngstown. Of course. We were in Youngstown.

SPEAKER_06 40:03

We didn't know that.

SPEAKER_07 40:04

See what I'm saying? We didn't know that. We were working, it was much cooler than Youngstown.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

We did not know that.

SPEAKER_07 40:08

We were working at Pittsburgh, you know.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

We were working at an event and we decided to smoke in the car and have a little fun.

SPEAKER_07 40:15

So we and Molly and we were leaving to go get something to eat. We're gonna get some eating. And got pulled over.

SPEAKER_02 40:19

Yeah, and he said, But what was it? We didn't turn it.

SPEAKER_07 40:22

Yeah, he said I failed to fail the signal turn 300 feet before stop bar. Oh my god. He didn't care about that of it.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

No, of course.

SPEAKER_07 40:31

He was watching this hotel because it was a drug hotel and he thought I was a drug dealer from Detroit and that she was a prostitute.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Yeah, oh nice. I was like, we are the prettiest prostitute I've ever seen. No stereotyping there at all. Oh no, for sure.

SPEAKER_07 40:45

And and because of that, I was just saying, but it may be known, right?

SPEAKER_00 40:48

Like so he that's his experience kind of. Right. Well, that's why he was sitting there.

SPEAKER_07 40:51

He was watching the hotel because they had just had that issue. Right.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

Wrong place at the wrong time. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 40:56

And so I I didn't have to go into jail. Like he cuffed me, took me down the station, and started the paperwork to process. He was like, he realized he fucked up. Yeah, and was like, Well, I won't, I won't, you know, take you down. I'll let you just you know bond out from here.

SPEAKER_02 41:10

And I just I bet you will pick them up in the car.

SPEAKER_07 41:13

Well, yeah, and we so I didn't have an extra$400 to pay a bondsman that I've never even used in my life. Didn't know how that worked.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 41:20

We could the only people I know that would be awake at 4 a.m. Right was our Heather and Jason down in freaking Florida. I give them a call. They didn't answer. And I was like, can I use my phone to call them? I was like, because I'm calling from a number. They're like, I ain't answering that shit. Right, yeah. So when I call right after, hello, they were like, What's wrong? And I was like, Listen, uh, so they're actually in the middle of a party at their house. And she takes my phone call and like FaceTimes me and was like, Hold on, what do you need? And she's partying still, she's like, Okay, one second, hold on. This then third, she's talking to the bondsman. She's like, You be nice to my man if you're standing the third. Like, she's giving him the third degree.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 41:59

And so even from there, while they're at their party in a pool, we that's we've made friendships and relationships that we can call in a pants.

SPEAKER_00 42:07

Definitely.

SPEAKER_07 42:08

Definitely.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Hey, I need to take a small break here. Let's do a pause. Okay, we'll be back. Okay, we're back. We got food, we got drinks, we're feeling good. Okay, Lola, I have a question for you. When he gets fully hard, I mean, how first of all, does it hurt? Like, how does he is he able to go in the whole way?

SPEAKER_02 42:34

So he says he doesn't go in all the way. I it feels like he goes in all the way.

SPEAKER_01 42:39

Why they laugh, but they're back to this.

unknown 42:42

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

I don't well, just based on your videos, I mean he's still out a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

Yeah, no, he's he's he's he's hard.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

But does it hurt? Like, does it hurt? No. I mean okay, so right now, I just had a hysterectomy probably in September. And so I'm still kind of healing. Like I'm healed, but yeah, his dick's really big, so every time I have sex with him, it's like Yeah, you it can't be you can't be uh going hard at it. But it definitely did not hurt before. No.

SPEAKER_00 43:17

Okay, interesting. And then so many other questions that I have, but you're only gonna hurt, but he but you can't go all the way in, Devon. Okay. Because at least then from the videos I've seen, there's at least four inches out.

SPEAKER_06 43:37

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

Okay, but do you guys do anal at all?

SPEAKER_01 43:40

That was my question. She loves it. Is it better in the ass than the like does it fit better? Because it can go pretty far out. Can you get I mean my ass is tight, so okay.

SPEAKER_07 43:53

I don't I don't necessarily know that we've experimented to see how far how far it fits in, but at a certain point she's like, All right, that's enough.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Yeah. Okay, so you're so you're obviously cautious about that.

SPEAKER_07 44:03

Yes, I'm I'm not a ground and pounder type. We know plenty of those and no. There would be even less women who want to have sex with me. I did that.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Well, so of course that uh there's that question too, which is they run I mean, even in the lifestyle, yeah women see you and your card. I mean, there's no fucking I mean it's honestly oh I don't I don't ever get naked in front of people.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

Oh, you don't? No, nope. It takes at parties? Nope.

SPEAKER_07 44:28

Oh, because there's one of two things is gonna happen. Either it's gonna be I'm not touching that thing, or there's all of a sudden a crowd now, like look at the thing. Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

Yeah, you get a pin. You don't want either. Right. Hate that. Interesting. Well, and they obviously all talk about it from the swingers to the girls that we were talking to. They all talk about it.

SPEAKER_07 44:47

Devon's dick is mentioned more than Devon is.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

Yeah. That hurts my heart. I haven't actually have a whole section here. Oh no, no, you're fine.

SPEAKER_07 44:54

No, no, no. Don't get me wrong. Like, don't get me wrong. I'm just like, that's it's it's it doesn't bother me until it's like if we're talking to a couple. Yeah, we're talking to a couple and the girls like, Well, I'm not touching that thing, it's gonna it's gonna rip me apart.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

Or the try it just to try it.

SPEAKER_07 45:11

And then never try them one again, and it's like okay, it's yeah, just to say you had it. I'm not a toy.

SPEAKER_00 45:15

Yeah, that would stop that. Seriously.

SPEAKER_07 45:17

So that happens, or well, dang, if if we was to swab, like she wouldn't even feel mine.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

What the fuck? That's not true. Yeah, how would John? Exactly. It's not. I was gonna say, right, okay, you take the 15-inch and then you become like a normal. It's not gonna be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway. Like it that's not how that works.

SPEAKER_00 45:33

Okay, so that was that actually plays right into one of my questions, which is okay, if you guys are in the lifestyle and you're obviously used to a bigger dick, okay. We I think, I mean, for me, I have a guy who's definitely above average, but we also use lots of toys and stuff too. So, but then like once he uses a bigger toy on me and then he comes back in, I can still feel it. Like that's but I feel like I'm all stretched out kind of in my head about that. Right, I do too. So, how do you feel like when you're with these people? Is it because you have a bond with them that you're like, okay, I'm gonna have sex with this guy and he's really good at sex? Or I mean, how does the penis size play into that?

SPEAKER_07 46:10

Okay, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

Well, I mean, it can't be small. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:14

What is small? What is small to be? We got small, there's like baby carrot small, or there's like small, but it's like no girth to it in a skinny. Like you can have an average smaller-ish size if it's got some girth too. Like, what is small? Like a coke can, but girthy.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

No, not as girthy. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

Oh, that length. Yeah, about that length.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

Okay, so that's a big length.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Average is like five and a half, like five, five, six inches. Yeah, yeah, that's small.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

Okay, okay. So have you been with anybody bigger than him ever? No. I mean, I wouldn't think so. I just had to ask.

SPEAKER_07 46:58

I mean, thicker than me for sure. Girth wise, yeah. But yeah, I'm not gonna be. No.

SPEAKER_01 47:04

No, well, okay, guys, here you go.

SPEAKER_07 47:06

Like, I'm I'm not like a, you know, like we've we got a friend who's the size of a fucking Coke can, like round. Okay, and I'm not that. It's like, oh god, it's a fucking doorstopper.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

Like, yeah, but see, then uh dick, different dicks feel differently. Yeah, of course. It's like different pussy. I feel different.

SPEAKER_00 47:24

Right. So yeah. Okay. Damn.

SPEAKER_07 47:28

I'm just I literally, I mean, I'm fascinated, and I seriously, I have been there's there's there are there's a difference I can feel when someone's talking about it and then either genuinely curious or you enjoy penises. Yeah, there's like an article is seeing all the differences.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

Don't be a fucking asshole. Yeah, you know, we can directly stupid comments. So yeah, I mean, because when it when it become like it's a novelty, and I it would have to fucking get old at a certain point.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Yeah, oh yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00 48:00

Do you like do you guys do you do your family know like about uh does that like is it a Christmas topic or Thanksgiving topic?

SPEAKER_02 48:08

Oh, we don't talk about it, but they're old of we're in a lifestyle, but I don't know, you know, mine does. Yeah, his family, his family wants to go to parties.

SPEAKER_07 48:22

And I'm like, it's not a ditty party.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

But do they know that you're like hung? Like, do they are they aware? Or they just know your whole lifestyle.

SPEAKER_07 48:30

They just know we're lifestyle. Okay, they think it's a ditty party, like a P Diddy party.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

Oh wow, that's what they said. Oh, you said a ditty party, not a dick party. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 48:41

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_07 48:42

Yep, my ants are nuts. Like, I'm trying to come to the ditty party, dance on the table. No, you're not. No, you're not. You're not. You will never, ever.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

So okay, so so when you're in the lifestyle, what do other women say in all of like do they like you know, is it's the men. It's the men, it's the men that talk about dick.

SPEAKER_01 49:03

I swear, they're always like, oh, it's so big.

SPEAKER_00 49:06

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

That's a them problem. They're just probably insecure then.

SPEAKER_07 49:10

Very you can see, you feel it and you see it and you hear it.

SPEAKER_01 49:12

Or they're on the cover by.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

Yeah, that's true. Now are you that way?

SPEAKER_07 49:19

So I'm straight.

SPEAKER_00 49:19

You're straight. But I again. But if you're in a group of sex thing and a guy wants to suck your dick, do you allow him?

SPEAKER_07 49:25

Typically, not that's not happening. Oh no. No, there's been situations where if we're playing and we're in a group setting and somebody reaches over and they're playing with her, they've grabbed me, and I've been like right now. That's first time it was an accident, second time.

SPEAKER_00 49:41

Yeah, second time it's gonna get really soft.

SPEAKER_07 49:44

Yeah, just real quick, like, you know what? I'm gonna get some snacks. I'll be right back. You keep going.

SPEAKER_00 49:50

So, okay, so you do DP, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

Not DP, we haven't done that. Oh, you have D V P, which is my favorite double vaginal.

SPEAKER_00 49:58

Two and a hole! Oh, double vaginal?

SPEAKER_02 50:00

It's my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

Oh my god. You have him and someone else? You really are a size queen. Yeah, wait. Listen, I'm just going after one of your videos and didn't say that.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

Yeah. I'm curious because what like how how do you position to do that? Yeah. Like I had enough problem the other night just using the machine, like trying to do the two.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

He's usually on the bottom, and I'm riding him, and then the other guy would come behind. Come up. Yeah. Behind me.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

Okay, so when you're doing DP, I okay, this is one of my I cannot even believe I get to ask you this question. So you're both going in and out of her. And and it's not as aggressive as porn kind of thing, because it really is probably just pressure at that point, right? Or is it actually is it actually pumping?

SPEAKER_02 50:47

Oh no, it's not pressure, yeah. It's I mean, to me, I can I feel everyone. You can feel both of them. Yeah, I can feel both of them. Especially like I can feel them rubbing together if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 50:57

Well, that well, no, it does because like if I have a toy in my ass and my partner's fucking me, I can totally feel feel both. I mean, it's only a little tiny piece of their membrane is right there. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 51:07

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

But like when you have two guys in you, then then their dick is also rubbing against your dick. So that has to feel fucking incredible. I'm sorry, it does. It's probably from a guy product.

SPEAKER_07 51:19

It's one of the like wild and weird and not weird at all in the same. It's it's not a normal feeling, but it feels really good. And then the more she's turned on, the more I'm turned on. Exactly. It's a mess afterwards.

SPEAKER_00 51:32

It's not, and it's not even about being gay or not. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 51:35

I'm not saying you're so open about it because that's that's like the whole educational point. Like if somebody normal like hears it, like that's gay. No, it's gay at all. I'll knock it till you try it, first off. Like, right, I love that.

SPEAKER_00 51:48

I do too. But I've been so fascinated by that because my partner, like, when we have whether he's in my ass or my pussy and we have a toy in the other one, it it definitely makes a difference first in how I feel, and I like it. But it also I just noticed like I I don't want to say he gets harder, but in my mind, he gets harder. He is because he knows I'm so turned on, and that's his thing.

SPEAKER_07 52:13

He is, trust me.

SPEAKER_00 52:14

Okay. And then when and then God, when he comes, is like, holy shit. I mean, you can feel everything at that point, too. Yes. So, oh, and I always wonder though, so so when you've got the two decks, they're rubbing together, I mean, it's a different feeling, right? Correct. You're getting you're getting stimulated, you're watching her. Okay, that just it took care of a fantasy, thank you.

SPEAKER_07 52:37

Yes, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 52:39

I will be thinking about that tonight, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

Now, can you have sex like multiple days in a row, or do you get pretty sore?

SPEAKER_02 52:46

I don't know. I can have sex.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

You can? No issues?

SPEAKER_07 52:50

None, none at all.

SPEAKER_00 52:52

Somebody sounds a little bitter over here. I'm tired. We're tired.

SPEAKER_07 52:58

Like we went on one trip and she was horny for 14 fucking hours. Straight. 14 hours. Like, not a joke. Have you ever seen a cat that's in heat?

SPEAKER_01 53:05

Yeah. Oh my god. That was me.

SPEAKER_00 53:08

And I feel like I'm super horny all the time. At least every day, kind of thing. Right.

SPEAKER_06 53:16

So all the time.

SPEAKER_00 53:18

All the time.

SPEAKER_06 53:19

Yeah. All the time.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

That's interesting. So, even like you said, you just had a surgery. So, like, even after that, did that mess with you at all? No, she was horny then, too. She kept trying to have sex. I said, listen, you got six wigs. Like, you gotta recover. Yeah. We didn't anyway.

SPEAKER_00 53:33

Well, you can play on the shut up. Well, you can play on the outside too, and you still have a mouth because what my husband always is. Yeah, your mouth's not bleeding. Right. That is great.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

So funny. I'm just curious about that because like the hormone side. Like, obviously, they're probably giving you medication for that to like fix it. No.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

So I didn't have a full hysterectomy. Okay. I didn't take out what was it, my cervix? Like, keep keep that. So I don't go through like oh the hormones and stuff like that. So okay. What did they take out?

SPEAKER_00 53:59

Just your uterus?

SPEAKER_02 54:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:01

Okay. My tubes were already gone.

SPEAKER_00 54:02

So that was just all I had to take out.

SPEAKER_01 54:04

But what about the ovaries? Don't don't they something like an ablation or something, right?

SPEAKER_00 54:08

Well, that's in the uterus. So if they take the uterus out, you know, okay, it's not okay. Yeah. Wow. And you get to keep your ovaries, which is a hormones. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

So it doesn't mess with your that's awesome. Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_07 54:18

And I feel like she had like probably one of the I don't want to say quicker. Yeah. But like less painful, like quick recoveries from uh hysterectomy. Because we've had several friends since we've joined a lifestyle. Again, us being on the younger side of the people we've we became friends with.

SPEAKER_04 54:34

Most of them.

SPEAKER_07 54:34

Most of them are older, so there are all a lot of them are starting to have hysterectomies or not have starting to have them already.

SPEAKER_04 54:40

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_07 54:41

And their recoveries, some of them were you know down bad for a while, like longer than the six weeks. Yeah. And it was just rough. And I looked at her and I looked over, and she was just like, nope, the first couple days was really rough. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:55

Really rough. But after that, I was walking around and I was trying to get to the couple.

SPEAKER_07 54:59

Doing too much and about to make me mad at her. Like, sit your ass down. Stop.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

But that's just me.

SPEAKER_00 55:05

Did you and like look? And if you're horny after that, you can still play with your quit or whatever. I mean, there's all that stuff, and your tits are.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

Yeah, I'll I use my rose faithfully. The rose.

SPEAKER_00 55:17

Okay, so what is the the funniest or most awkward situation you guys have been in in the lifestyle, maybe or out of the lifestyle, it doesn't really matter. About you know, the two of you being together. Obviously, you're very large deck, but do you have a funny story, an awkward moment, anything that you want to share?

SPEAKER_07 55:41

I'm trying to play the highlights and see which one is yeah, go right ahead.

SPEAKER_00 55:45

And then while he's thinking about that, what's oral like for him? I mean, like when you're doing it. Can you go? I mean, if he obviously he he's turned on because of you, so it's gonna get big.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

Yeah. Oh, I cannot go all the way down.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:58

And when he he does he likes to do this thing, he squeezes it and it makes it super, super vain, super, super thick. I really can't. Like squeeze the base out of it. Yeah, that makes sense. Because then it gets harder and bigger. Yeah, but he is more of a tip, like he has all the feeling in his tip. Yeah. So it's not so much of deep throat in him as just doing that.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

So going back to you, Devon, then like in my mind, I was thinking about this about you getting oral. It would take three women to be on your cock to feel like you were getting it all the way down. Right? I mean, like I wouldn't know. Oh, you haven't had three women on your deck? Yeah, you have. From a mouth.

SPEAKER_07 56:40

Yeah, yeah. We've had several like that, but it's I'm gonna let y'all know something in a secret. Deep throating is not for the men, it's it's for the women. Men don't men don't get nothing, but they're they're fucking lying.

SPEAKER_01 56:52

What about that swallow thing?

SPEAKER_00 56:54

Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_01 56:55

Yeah, wait, what? We've been lied to?

SPEAKER_00 56:57

Hold on, I'm texting my partner.

SPEAKER_07 56:59

Let's let's let's let's hold on. If we're gonna if we're gonna uh let's do it. Here we're here for educational purposes, right? Yeah, we are so we all know that men typically in America we're all circumcised, right?

SPEAKER_05 57:08

Right.

SPEAKER_07 57:09

And they'll tell you that your your all your nerve endings is in the tip of your penis. And the foreskin that they've cut off. So when the hell did the shaft catch all the all the feelings?

SPEAKER_00 57:20

Yeah, but like right underneath the head on the underside. What's that called? The well you like too.

SPEAKER_02 57:25

Yeah underneath of it. Yeah, right below right below the head.

SPEAKER_07 57:28

That's a huge yeah, it's that's still tip, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

Why does yeah, why does it be?

SPEAKER_07 57:32

From where the where the color is different and to the tip is that's your you know, your sensitive area region. I and so when people are trying to go, okay, to be fair, some people don't have as much rest of the shaft to deal with.

SPEAKER_00 57:43

Right.

SPEAKER_07 57:43

So to them it may be feeling like a whole thing, but no, you're feeling in the tip.

SPEAKER_00 57:47

So well, okay, hold on a minute here. I'm just trying to get through this with my with my own partner. So if he's deep throating me, like my head's laid back off the side of the bed, that whole thing. Oh, it he can feel going into my throat, like he the head has gone in. Yeah, he can feel that. And I don't I don't know that it's necessarily for me because I'm like, I could live without it, it's not that big a deal. There is something about just doing it for him, right?

SPEAKER_07 58:15

Now the the whole interaction of that is that's hot and stimulating, but the stimulation itself is not coming from the deep throat on the the dick itself, it's all the tip. So if you want to waste some energy and time, because most men, if they try to deep throw me, they're done after they just punctured their esophagus.

SPEAKER_02 58:34

So church one that was pretty close. What? Really?

SPEAKER_07 58:38

Very true. But wait, what was that? I'll just leave it alone.

SPEAKER_02 58:41

There was uh one girl that was pretty pretty close to being home face.

SPEAKER_07 58:44

Yeah, yeah. They call her the throw queen. Throw queen. Yeah, well, yeah. You can look up Maisie Magic on Twitter. Wow, she's got plenty of videos, and ours isn't on there though. Yeah, it got plenty of videos of her going all the way like deep throat a lot of dicks, like she loves doing it.

SPEAKER_00 58:58

Wow, she's had her gag reflex removed or something.

SPEAKER_07 59:02

I don't think she ever had one.

SPEAKER_00 59:03

Right, maybe some people don't.

SPEAKER_07 59:05

Yeah, so she's one of those, and she was the one that got you know, yeah, pretty much down there.

SPEAKER_00 59:10

And did it feel better or not? Because you're more all your sensitivity is right there at that first few minutes.

SPEAKER_07 59:15

It was worse because by the time it's now hitting your teeth and everything, there's no way to keep it, you keep your mouth that open right all the way down. But if it's in a post, it's Hollywood.

SPEAKER_00 59:24

So the three girls thing doesn't. I mean, do you like your balls played with? Love it. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 59:30

She said, ooh.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

And there are some guys who was like, Don't touch my balls, just cup them kind of. I mean, they may be sensitive. Oh god. Yeah, don't suck on them. Don't look.

SPEAKER_07 59:39

But no, that's a good that's that area for me is great feeling.

SPEAKER_01 59:42

What about butt stuff? Like, are you okay with anyone going near yours?

SPEAKER_07 59:46

Eat my butt.

SPEAKER_01 59:46

Like, not in, but like around.

SPEAKER_07 59:48

Eat my butt. Yeah, lick my butt. Absolutely. I look, ain't nothing wrong with having my my tab my salad toss. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_00 59:55

Salad toss.

SPEAKER_07 59:56

Yeah. No, no, I've never been a insert something in there person.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:00

Like, but have you tried?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:01

Of course. Like any dude who said they didn't is lying.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

Yeah, they're lying. Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:05

They lied. They lied.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:08

But no, as far as like just no way, no way. It's nah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:13

No.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:13

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:14

Okay. So did you figure out if you had any awkward or funny situation?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:18

It's that's the problem. Like, it's always like a fucking shit show and comedy show. Like every event. So like we could go event by event by event, and you know, we give you two or three funny things that were hilarious, or I'm trying to figure out like any awkward moments. I can't think of like something that just went and everybody was like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:39

Like hell or have you had any funny reactions? Like people see you're like, oh my, like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:44

So I I I'll I'll go with that. We were down at Secrets in Florida.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:48

And is that a what's Secrets?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:50

So Secrets, so Secrets Resort. It's in Kissimmee, Florida.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:54

It started, it used to be a like a um an old Howard Johnson that somebody bought, gutted the rooms. So you you you you know what a Howard Johnson looks like, right? The little square motel, right? So they took that, they they gutted the rooms and kind of redid them as condos. So you could actually go down and purchase one of these condos and it's yours and you can decorate it how you want. Every room is basically a fucking 50 50 shades of gray room. And and you can look on the I kid you not, if you somebody has their phone, you can pull up Secrets Resort or Secrets Hideaway Resort. Okay, and it'll pull up, you can search through the rooms and see what's in the room. The room, some of the rooms come with wine, some of the rooms come with drinks and stuff in the fridge because the owners can stock it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:31

Yeah, so they're owned, like they're open. They're individually and then they're rented out on the room.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:35

Correct. And so it's just like a hotel. Like, if you're not there, you can have your room rented out and essentially be making your money back that you pay for this condo within a couple years.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:43

Wow, that's wild.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:44

Before they just renovated it, it I think it was like$70,000 to get one. So at the time it sounded like a lot, but it's it really wasn't. It was great because you could make it back in three years. Right. I'm crunching the numbers over here. I'm looking like I I like I at that time I don't have the means to do this, but I was like, bruh, we could do this real quick.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:01

Okay, so you were at Secrets, and what happened?

SPEAKER_07 1:02:03

So we're there, we're down there with our our our sister family, iOS, Heather and Jason, which you remind me, you remind us a lot of Heather. She's fucking amazing, by the way. Okay, good. That's the that's who we called at 4 a.m.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:15

Thank you.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:16

Like look and voice. That's wild.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:18

Um, so we're in one of the playrooms, and it's just her and I and our playing, and she's giving me head, and I'm laying on my back. Well, one of our other friends walks into the room, and it's dark, so I I don't know what her and her friend are talking at or looking at. And she goes, I hear a whisper, is that real? And then she said, She goes, Oh my god, is that his dick?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:38

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:38

And I'm looking, I'm looking around, like, nobody else. Are you talking about mine? She goes, Yes, is that real? Is that yours? And I was like, Yes. She goes, Oh my god. And I was like, What? What just happened? Like, we've known her for a while, right? And she just walked in, and I just it one of the things that just kind of cut through whatever we was doing. And I was like, Wait, what? So yeah, we've had that happen a couple times where people walked in and was like, Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:59

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:00

Or if she starts giving me head, like if we're at like one of the lifestyle clubs, she loves to try to give me head, like in the area where everybody's just walking by.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:07

I want everyone to see it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:09

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:12

Oh, you didn't because he's shy. I think it's no, it's not I'm not shy.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:16

I'll get on the stage and talk in front of 10,000 people and I'll I'll pull my dick out. It's I'm not shy.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:21

It's you're like you have to be comfortable with it. He has to be in that mood.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:26

And again, I I can read, I can walk into a room and feel like I can feel everything in that room.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:32

I'm learning later as that's called an empath.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:35

I hate saying it's not like I'm an empath. You sound crazy. And a lot of people are, as I'm more and more and more. Oh, I know. Listen, I paid you 20 minutes ago. I I figured you out. That's why I was asking you questions. Like, hold on. So, and so as you know, when you walk into a room, you have met everybody, but you can feel somebody in this room is a little and you don't even be there. I get that a lot, so I can feel different energies, different looks, different this, that a third. So you may have 15 people who are up here excited to watch her do it, and then you got the three behind them hating or being nasty and rude, and I can see you looking at me like he wouldn't touch me with that thing. He wouldn't touch my wife. Right. I don't want to fuck your wife. Right, exactly. I promise. I promise. I do not. She may be a sweet lady, but you're an asshole, sir. Yeah. The fuck out of here. So yeah. It happens, it happens quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:23

Oh, yeah. Okay, we talked about this earlier, but we were talking about dick tricks or something, and you'd start laughing.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:29

Yeah, because again, Heather and Jason, we're down there with them. We're at their house partying. Yeah. And it's it was just it's nothing's ever forced when you're around us. Like if we was to hang out with a couple, it's if you don't want to do it, great. If you do, great.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:43

Whatever. So we're just kind of like like fucking around, and they're asking silly questions too. Like, we can give you everything just smacked her with it. I was like, yeah, all the time. Like a damn drum. You know, that thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:54

You said the first time you guys had sex, you were smacking her ass.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:56

Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. I think you were I think she was sitting on me. Yeah, you were riding me reverse, and I was fucking you, and I was able to pull you up far enough that I could fuck you and like damn near eat you at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:11

Oh yeah. You did you did wow that's impressive. And that was a secret too on the swing. No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:20

No, no, we were on the swing, and that's when you was you have a dick in your mouth and I bent backwards to try to get you.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:24

You did a whole trick. That's just a dick trick.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:26

That was fine. That was fine. Hold on, what was there was another one. Crap, I can't think what it was.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:33

That's okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:33

Because they were like, they was like, Don't show nobody. We're gonna patent that one, we're gonna put it on YouTube, or like porn hub. And I was like, that should be a whole category itself, dick tricks. That's funny. That is funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:43

Well, my favorite one is where you Oh, I folded it. Yeah, you fold no, you put it in the bag. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:50

Wait, what happened?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:51

Oh, wait, like a reach around?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:53

Wait, so I can tuck it and she can fuck on the like if I'm laying on my stomach, I can just lay flat and put a Back here and she can fuck it.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:01

Yeah.

unknown 1:06:02

Listen.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

That is cool. You need to video that, and I promise you, you will get rich.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:08

That way, who's the oh, then I've also been soft and can fold it up and put it in and go from there.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:17

Wow. Listen, there is nothing better to me than a man who is soft and I'm giving him a boy job and they grow in their mouth.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:24

You know what? This is the third time we've heard that this week.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:27

But you might get over the initial like soft pee pee in your mouth. I can't. I don't know. I love it. I like to feel it getting hard, but I'm gonna go. At first, I'm just like kind of gagging.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:37

Is it the texture thing?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:38

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:40

It's like a warm gummy bear.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:41

Like I want it to be a little bit like I can't just think you're just like limp.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:46

The minute you put your mouth on it, it's like no, it's start, but I gotta get over.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:50

It's definitely one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:51

Look, just put it on the tip. Just put the tip. It's not like it again, put the tip between your tongue and the top of your life.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:57

I do, and it works. It's just like that. That's so funny. I don't have that. As a matter of fact, even just the other day, he was here and totally was completely soft. And I'm like, I I just wanted it from that moment forward. And you sound like her.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:15

You sound like her. Oh my God. It's it's it doesn't turn off with you, does it? Yeah. You didn't smack my ass. My bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:23

Listen, and I get that you don't think it's a trick, but the fact that you can tuck it behind you and she can fuck your you can just be asleep like here.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:33

That happens all the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:35

Wow. So you are you're never in like locker room, saunas, anything like that. You're covered completely. You've I will tell you, you've protected yourself is what's happened. And actually childhood trauma.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:50

So you don't have any of that issue.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:53

Trauma hood, trauma uh traumahood. Right. Childhood trauma. Oh god, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:56

Well no, but I'm not about your peers. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Yeah, we all have childhood trauma.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:01

You know, thankfully, thankfully, I was not one of those kids that was, you know, like sexually abused or nothing like that. Good.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:06

And that's what I meant about the fact that you're not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:09

Yeah, that's what I also want to clarify that. Yeah, no, I was not, I did not have sexual relations. Um, yeah, no, no, no. None of that. It just was one of them things I wasn't sure of because again, I was hanging around my older friends who were always talking about getting head and stuff like that. I didn't know what that meant.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:27

Like it's and Google wasn't readily accessible to go type in. And if I did, I'm I'm gonna be in trouble by 4:30 when my parents get home because search history just was not easily deleted back then, much less did I know. But I mean, my I I think my first like search on a computer of like for anything sexual was like sex.com. It was I kid you not, that was the first thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:46

That's everybody.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:48

Let's try to sex.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:49

Sex or just sex and it's not so funny.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:52

Boobies it nothing, it's just oh yeah, text for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:55

And so I just I just always just assumed I was have you ever and I'm I'm only giving you this example because I want to share with you guys a funny story about my brother that I gave him a kidney and then he died like three years later, but we're not getting into all that. I'm just telling you, it's still a funny fucking story. So shit, can I have a back? So you've never been you no, you can't, by the way. I can answer all your questions about being a living organism. I was kind of kidding and joking at the same time. Oh boy. Well, and and I'll give you that too. But at any rate, my brother was a diabetic, he'd been a diabetic since he was very young, and yeah, I I have a lot of brothers, and I'm the only girl. So growing up, I mean, my family was very open, like being nude was never an issue. Like you just walked around naked, it didn't matter, and nobody thought anything about it kind of thing. So, at any rate, it my brothers are all very well endowed. That's what I realized at one point in my life once I started having sex with men. So he he was really sick and would be in and out of the hospital and stuff. And he, because he was a diabetic, he could never get a tattoo, but he was a Harley writer and all this other bullshit. And he's like, I want a tattoo. Well, one night he got drunk in Chillicothe, Ohio, with his wife was there too. Oh, Chillicothe. And he decided they the guys were betting him, has all his friends that he wouldn't go get a tattoo. He's like, Not only am I going to go get a tattoo, I'm gonna get a tattoo on my dick.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:23

And so he put words in people's mouth.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:26

Oh, this is crazy. So he he goes to the little tattoo place that's there at this big biker gathering, and he he's like, What's the smallest tattoo you have?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:37

A dot.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:38

And it was a fly. It's a lot. So when he got really sick, like, you know, was dying again and was back in the hospital, the nurses would come in and you know, they would like go to, you know, to change his whatever catheter or whatever. And everybody would notice the fly on his neck and it became a thing at the hospital. So that's what I was when I'm talking about like it being a conversation piece.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:05

Oh, there it is. You brought it up. One of those awkward kind of um things that happened.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:10

For him, actually, it was so funny because when he was healthier and would have to be in the hospital, he got the biggest fucking kick out of it. And even more importantly, when he died, he had a garage that everybody used to go and hang out at. And women would want to see the fly tattoo on his deck, and he's like, I'll show it to you. But he had hundreds and hundreds of bras hanging from the rafters. I need your bra. I get whatever bra you're wearing. And I'm not joking, every woman would pull up their bra and he give it to him, and then he would show him the fly tattoo on his deck.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:42

That is hilarious.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:43

I know what I'm about to do now. I know where we're gonna build today.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:46

Have you ever seen that the dancing banana like peanut butter jelly? Yeah, it's like a banana. Well, we had someone we went to school with who had huge cock and he had the dancing banana tattooed on it. Yeah. Yeah. So when it would grow, he'd like whip it out, and it's just a dancing banana.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:04

And I would laugh at my brother because he was all my brothers are very, very ornry. But he would be like, he would he would tell the nurses, he'd be like, Look, if you rub it, it'll turn into an eagle.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:13

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:15

Which was so not true, by the way. But oh my gosh. And and luckily the nurses knew better, but he was very ornry. So, what's your story? Oh god. No dick tattoos.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:26

Wait, for none. I have zero tattoos.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:28

No, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:28

My grandmother like threatened me, so I've never gotten one. Right. Um, and she's passed away. So for her for me still not to have any, that woman scared the shit out of me. So do you you're all Ohio State, the James Medical Center, right here?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:41

I used to work there. Oh shit. When when? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:45

When how long ago was this?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:47

Within the last 10 years. Oh.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:50

Okay. Well, um, obviously, obviously, she doesn't know me because I've had to be there. Well, not the ICU. So we remember I used to I used to do herbal life, and we had a a a conference every month up here. So we were up here once a month there for a while. Sometimes our events would run concurrent with a event weekend. So most of our most all of our friends are up here in Ohio. So we're we were up here almost every weekend, yeah, if not every other weekend. So one weekend we come up, I learned about the dick shot. And I was like, the fuck is a dick shot? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:26

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:27

Oh, please tell us I heard your episode where you was talking about it. I was like, oh. So our friends are doing it because I'm trying to figure out. I was like, Wait, are they doing it themselves?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:37

How are they some some do mostly have sh well can have a nerd? We have a nurse. There are a thousand nurses that are in the lifestyle.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:43

But she usually does it. Yeah. So you're not going to be able to do that. But what is it though? That is that the filler of the Botox or what?

SPEAKER_07 1:13:48

So it is a drug called Trimex. Trimax? Trimex. T-R-I-M-E-X. Okay. You rather can get that? Right. He sure can. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:56

Exactly where I'm writing it down.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:57

Go to his urologist and tell him he wants Trimax. His doctor's gonna look at him like he's crazy, or that he's like, Oh, you trying to have fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:02

Right. But what is it for?

SPEAKER_07 1:14:04

So it is for men and so so essentially what it does, it helps your your your penis stay hard.

unknown 1:14:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:13

And when I say stay hard, some men have, you know, your your uretha tube that you know goes up where the blood goes in, not in the uretha, but right the tubes beside it that go in to make it hard and it's what fills it up. A lot of men have essentially that the sticky glue that once the blood's in, it cuts off the thing so it doesn't come back out. So a lot of men, if they have issues getting erections, don't have them lay on their back. They'd either be up or laying forward. Because blood can go up, and instead of staying in, when you're aroused, kind of like a clamp, it just goes back out. The trimex goes in, acts as that agent that helps keep blood in and not coming out. So when you give yourself the dick shot, which is crazy as this sounds, and I ain't gonna stab my dick with a needle. It's it's the size of an size of a bee standard. It's the smallest one.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:01

And when you do it, it you know, rub it in helps you get hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:06

You do this like before you have sex each time.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:08

Oh god, if you want to, but you you you don't have a dick left. Nah, probably it's it's it's you you put it on before sex or do it before sex, whatever you want to do. Obviously, when you're soft, because if you are hard, you don't need it. Yeah, um, but when you're soft, you put it in, and then you can get yourself hard or whoever's and how long does it last? Until you get rid of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:29

What do you mean? Until you get rid like until you, however, get off. Yes. So okay, that's what I was asking. You like I'm soft, I'm gonna usually that's what happens. And then you go and have fun until you come, usually. Yep, and then it's done.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:44

Yep, and then it'll go away.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:45

And where do you shoot it at in the penis?

SPEAKER_07 1:15:46

So you want to go to the base of your penis, almost like to your groin, but just right there. Right there. Yeah, it it sounds like it'd be terrible. And it fucking is it's fucking horrible. I don't know who's lied to y'all. It's fucking terrible. It's it's a shot in the dick. It's exactly what it sounds like, but it it it's uh it's it's just like a little pants, it's done. If you can come, or if you don't come, and it stays hard, now you got a whole different issue.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:15

You've you know because growing up with Viagra, that's what I used to hear.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:20

Like, if you have an erection lasting longer than four hours, please call a doctor. I'm calling all my friends. The fuck you talking about? Yeah, yeah. Um, so when we had heard these horror stories about people getting hard and having to go get their dick drained, this this, that, and the third. Oh my god, I don't want that to happen to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:35

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:36

I tried the trimex for the first time ever.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:38

And you got it from your nurse friend?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:41

No, no, she did the shot for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:43

You so you got it for your doctor?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:45

Well, I did later because my friends have all again, we have nurses, we have nurses, doctors, yeah, officers, sheriffs, yeah, SWAT. All these people are lifestyle people. You walk by them every day, you go see them at an office every day. You might not know, yeah, but you do. And so we've got people there that have the legit stuff, the prescribe stuff, uh friends who have ordered this the dick shot. So I was like, yo, let me get one. He's like, all right, I'll draw it up for you. So he pulls out a 0.1, whatever, pulls it out, gives me the shot.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:13

Well, nothing happens this night for me. So I'm like, damn. And so and so was like, Where'd you get it? I got it from him. This is like, oh, he's he's just terrible. And I was like, Well, give me some of yours.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:21

Oh no. Yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:24

Did a second one, 10 minutes. Usually it's like two or three minutes, and it's getting hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:28

Really?

SPEAKER_07 1:17:29

You can you can activate it. Still nothing happening.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:32

Oh no.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:33

Well, let me try yours again.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:34

That's like the first time I got drunk.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:35

So we yeah, three dick shots. Oh my god. I took three dick shots that night.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:40

So, how long did it take for it to work?

SPEAKER_07 1:17:42

After the third one?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:43

Yeah, it popped up, and it didn't go away.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:46

It popped up and wouldn't go away. So that's where a Scooby-Doo picture comes from.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:49

Yep. Stop.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:51

So this is why the first time I've ever seen my dick and it's full.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:56

Yeah. I was shocked.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:58

I looked at him, I was like, hey, take a picture. Look at the thing. It was fucking wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:04

Problem is I had sex with one person at night. One person. She happened to be the roughest motherfucker at the party. I love her to death. She's fucking hot. But she was she was a little past little tipsy, and she loves to fuck also, which is fine. But that time particular, I was not feeling the greatest because my thing is like hanging out.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:26

I didn't say all your blood's down there, right? Like, seriously.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:28

The majority of light headed, yes, yes, yes, that's a real thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:31

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:32

And she's being rough, and I was like, all right, you I was like, love you, but you gotta stop. Like, I was like, I'm done. I'm done. She's pissed because I wouldn't fuck her.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:39

I try to jump on top.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:40

She tried, I was like, get the fuck off. Like, I'm mad.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:43

Wait, like, is your penis hurting at that point? Throbbing. Yeah, yeah. Throbbing. No, because like you just gotta get off this time.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:49

Right, no, it needs to go away. It's through mind you. I I've stuck the cement glue in there to keep it hard. Yeah, but that's not breathing.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:56

But I thought the way to make it stop would be to get off. Yeah, you got to go back to the city. With one shot. Oh, you got off and it wasn't working.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:02

No, I never got off. Because with one shot, you can get off. It's kind of like a dissolvable glue. Like, once you beat it.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:06

Oh, so you couldn't get off because it was too much.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:08

I couldn't fucking function. Oh god. Oh, God. Mind you, and at this point, it's now because I figured it would go away. Because I like everybody's like, they tell you, it's we've learned so much about our damn selves. It's you relax, you need to relax, calm down, because like you're being excited, your blood's flowing, everything is making it worse. So I was like, calm down. So we're relaxing. Because a lot of people start going to sleep at this point or leaving or whatever. Yeah. And I'm laying there, and I was like, Nope, gotta go. So I be upstairs and I go up, I fucking knock on my friend's door. Help me. She was like, I told you not to do it. And I was like, just give me the reversal. She was like, hurry up. So there's actually a reversal shape.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:42

So it's just like you know what? It's just like reversing feller or whatever. You know, yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:46

If something doesn't go right, you can stick it back in and it'll take it away.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:50

Well, I had to take two of those.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:52

Oh my god. Like one one. That was hard this entire time.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:56

How long are we talking at this point? Yeah. Hours.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:59

It was it was not as long as the my trip to Ohio State's ER.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:03

Oh god. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:05

But was that the same situation? Different situation.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:11

Oh, I I even actually went to my doctor after that to actually talk because I was confused as to why I got lightheaded when I would get a full erection. I was like, I don't like that. So again, another reason I'm not trying to show my dick or get hard and everything else. So many different things. So I figured it out, found out what the Trimax does, what the reversal was. I go to my doctor, I get my own or whatever. But there was another party we go to. We're coming up for an herb life event. We played the night. I took the shot too late because we left right afterward. I never came. I didn't grab a reversal shot.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:42

We tried so hard.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:44

Yeah. So now we just gotta harden it.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:46

How fucking frustrating would that be? Because you know that's only if you come is probably the way to get it out.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:51

But if you can't come, I can so fucking frustrated. Oh my god. We pulled over, we're at the damn rest area trying to jack off, trying to she's trying to help, she's sucking, and she's nothing's working. So we was like, you know what? Maybe we'll just we'll just go on. We gotta get to get to the event. We gotta get to the event. We we already paid, we're going to this business. So we go, and you all know the I don't know if people know where we are or not on your podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:15

Oh yeah, no, they don't. Okay. We're in Ohio, but but Columbus is close.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:19

We can say that.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:20

Perfect. Okay, so we are we went over to the Greater Convention, the Greater Columbus Convention Center. So that's where our event was. So it's a big place. Yeah, big place, right? So we get we park and we get out. Now, mind you, I've still got this hard. You down here. Okay. And I'm in blue jeans. So now I'm walking.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:43

You have to like strap it down like a seatbelt. I couldn't touch it.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:47

I couldn't touch it.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:47

We're walking through the hallway, and I'm like, Well, that would hurt you back again. Like strafing against your jeans.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:53

It's hurting. And my skin at that point is so like stretched thin that if it touches anything, like I'm Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:01

Oh.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:02

So we we get we make it to our meeting. We get in there.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:04

Wait, you actually, I wouldn't have to go.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:07

Nothing in my brain to scream and go to the hospital yet. Okay. Right, right. So we sit down. I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna chill out. You know, well, it's the wrong thing to do at an urban life business train. And you ain't chilling a bit. Like we're we're getting up, we're pumped up. Like when we leave there, we're ready to run through a brick wall because we've just learned so much. We're ready to go.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:24

The music cuts on. Doom, doom, doom, doom. And I was like, every time the bass hit, my dick was throbbing. And I was like, we gotta go. Right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:36

Are you serious?

SPEAKER_07 1:22:37

Like we sat down, we had been there four minutes, stood up and walked out. Then I had to walk all the way back across the adventure center to get back to the car.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:43

But we also got we stopped and got Oh wait, fuck.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:45

We stopped at the gift shop. Sudafed.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:47

Sudafed.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:48

Because there's there's an active an ingredient in Pseudafed that is actually the same, like part of the same reversal that's in the shot.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:55

So if you take enough Sudafed, it essentially should have worked in theory. But where they removed a lot of the active ingredients or as much as I could buy at the store, because there's drug addicts, you know, like stuff like that. I was like, so you mean tell me because they fucked up. I can't get my dick to go soft. Oh my god. So we go to the ER. I finally get in and I tell them what happened. And they keep repeating this P word. And I'm just like, what the fuck does that mean? Yeah, it's a part, it's it's I forgot what it's called. Perin something.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:23

Perrin is whatever.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:26

Yeah, that word right there. So never heard this word, so they keep saying it. And I'm just like, Can I get rid of that? Like, what is that? And it sounded like something you caught. So I I sit down for a second. I was like, all right, come on back. I go back, they get me to a room. She comes back in. She parked the car. So she had come in. Now, mind you, I'm now had to change into a hospital gown.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:48

There's one doctor in there at first. And so he was like, ah, so what happened? I tell him everything. And he's like, okay, all right. So give me just hold tight for me. I forgot we're at the university.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:58

Oh, yeah, there's gonna be kids coming in to watch too. They keep watching.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:02

Four of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:02

Oh my god. Like the people are shadowy.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:07

Oh, they got to be hands-on that day.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:08

Yeah, it's a learning university.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:10

It was a very hands-on learning university that day. Every last one of them students in the room got to draw a vial of blood on my dick.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:16

No way. Oh my god. Oh my god, wait.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:18

Yeah. Why?

SPEAKER_06 1:24:19

Do they numb it? Why draw blood? For what? What was it gonna be the point of numbing?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:24

Oh no, I lied, I lied. They didn't numb it. Yeah, hell yeah. Because I would have fought everybody in that fucking room. But you still I felt it when the Asian dude did it. So there were three white doctors and then the main doctor and then a fucking Asian.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:36

Each one of them had like there's two on the side, two on the side. Doctor was at the at my feet. And they again. Oh no, they were draining. It wasn't trying to get it. They were draining.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:48

They they they stole a lot of my blood that day. So between the doctor leaving out and going getting the students coming back, my door is like it was. I don't think I had a door. It was one of the curtains. Yeah, mind you, I'm right in front of the triage desk or the thing. So I can hear the conversation that the nurses are having the whole time. The one thing that made me about jump out the bed was, Y'all better hurry up and save that boy's dick before it falls off.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:13

It's like, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:15

I was like, Yeah, please save it. That's all I heard. And then the doctors walked in. He numbs it. And it's not a small needle this time. It's a hose that they're using to take it out. They numbed it. First guy goes. I didn't, I felt a pinch, not pain. Second guy goes, same. Second, third guy goes, same. I'm not looking because I can't watch you straight up. Yeah, you would have gouge my pinch. She's watching. Nasty. Oh, this is crazy. The fourth guy goes, and it's the Asian guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:42

No. I said, you I would have kicked him out. And I'm looking at him like this. I would literally would have kicked him.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:48

You said you're about to catch you. Hang in, sir. I was like, ah at that point, I didn't give a fuck what had happened. I was just, I was so in pain and just uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:59

My dick was like the blood was purple. Yeah. They came out. He was like, Yeah, if that happens and you leave that in too long, here's one your learning curve for a lot of people who may not know. If you leave that blood in there so long, that blood goes from obviously like blue, red, and then it goes purple. And when it starts turning purple and blue, your dick can die.

unknown 1:26:19

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:19

Oh my god. And that's why you don't fuck around with shit with dick. That you don't know.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:24

That you don't understand, or that you don't have the means to get it fixed immediately.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:27

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:27

Because it can your your dick can essentially think of a TV screen with pixels in it, right? Yeah. You have a screen that has pixels that can go out. So essentially your dick can have areas where it goes out. Yeah. You no longer feel it. Nothing happens or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:41

It's just soft all the time.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:42

It can be just soft all the time. Because even with medicine, after you've done all that, because you've now just killed it, essentially.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:48

So it's called the perennium. The perennium. That's what it was.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:51

I knew it was pee peri something. They kept saying that word, and I was just like, huh?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:56

So how long did it take them to get it like when it went back down? Like how long was it?

SPEAKER_07 1:27:00

So after they drew the four vials, it was four. It was four. It was four. Okay. So it was four for sure. It was big ass tubes of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:07

It was big.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:10

After they did it, it was still it was still hard, but not it wasn't it wasn't as hard. It physically went down. I could see it went down.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:18

And I bet the pressure felt so good to get to get rid of it, right? I mean, I can't imagine like how long was your dick hard like that before you went? What?

SPEAKER_07 1:27:28

It was like seven, eight hours.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:30

Oh my gosh. I can't even imagine.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:32

It was it was hurt. It was bad. But to be fair, the first three to four hours, I was having a good time. I mean, this one was having fun, but it was the after, and then all the way up here.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:43

And so they had to drain it physically. Correct. Drain the blood out. And then why didn't they just give you the stuff to dissolve it?

SPEAKER_07 1:27:54

I don't think they had it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:55

Oh.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:56

Because I was telling the doctor what I was what I'd used. Right. And he was looking at me like, huh? And I was like, the fuck? You're a doctor. You supposed to know this.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:04

Yeah. I need you to know this.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:06

And to be fair, I didn't even hear about the trimax until I actually went to my urologist after that. Because after that, because here's another thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:12

I'm finding out that there are a lot more men that are that suffer from ED. Oh, yeah. And it may not necessarily mean when people hear ED, they think that their dick doesn't work and they're less of a man. It's not the fucking case. Not at all.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:26

It's not the fucking case. You can be 25 or 30. And like it's sometimes it's just not gonna work, and that's okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:32

And that's why my degree just looked at me weird when I walked in this room. He said, The hell are you doing here? And I was like, what do you mean? Like at first time I'm meeting this man. The first thing he said out of his mouth walking back, he's like, You too young to be in my my office.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:43

I was like, I I know, bitch, that's why I'm here. And so we sat down and we had a conversation. And he is then he explained to me, like, it's there's nothing you're doing wrong, nothing that happens. Sometimes there's it's just this doesn't work like this, this, or because as we call it, you have the blessing and the curse. His words out of his mouth is what he said to me. He's like, You got a blessing and a curse. He's drawing on the paper, he's like, See, this is where and I was like, You are dramatic. And she actually got to meet him when he did uh vasectomy. And I was like, I had been telling her stories about him. I'm like, dude, is wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:16

Yeah, right. She didn't know. I love a doctor with a great sense of humor.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:20

I definitely did. Yeah. And he he asked me if I wanted to do it.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:25

My vasectomy.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:26

Well, I was holding her baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:27

I was like, Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:28

He's like, You want to cut it?

SPEAKER_00 1:29:29

And I said, That's funny. So actually, this is so funny that you've even told this story because one of my questions was tell us something you've learned about your anatomy with all of this. And look at this. I mean, my God, what a story. Without doubt that, yeah. Okay, so they got it out. How long did it take them? How long were you there for them to get it out? It was like maybe an hour or something.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:50

It was a couple hours. Yeah. Was it? Yeah. Because like it holy shit. Processing, get me in, taking all that stuff. Get me in. Then numbing, coming back and explaining and talking to the students, like, listen, you're the dick, and we're gonna have to take down. And yeah, so I was like, I just know they're out there talking about me. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:07

Yeah. There's no way.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:08

I was just in it pinched in the pit pitched the tent. Do I have a picture of that? Of the game. No, I do.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:15

I got a picture of my gown of us of me sitting in the no, was that the Scooby-Doo mask night, or was it a different okay?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:22

So that was at a at a house party that was up here. I mean, that was the first time I'd done the Tri-Max, but I'd done three shots, but I had the reversal there because we didn't leave. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:31

And so the reversal thing like worked.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:34

And how long does it take after you take the reversal shot?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:37

It's a couple minutes.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:38

Oh, just really that quick?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:40

Yeah. Again, like think think about like a like a cement glue that you can squeeze out of a bottle and stick it to hold something. Yeah. If it's cold, it'll stay solid, but if you heat this up, it'll melt. Just picture that that's what you're doing, essentially. You're sticking that cement glue in, holding blood, and when you come, that's you know, your body's get getting rid of that glue. Wow. That's the best way I can explain it to somebody who doesn't understand.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:03

It's just like filler to me, is why I don't got it.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:05

So have you tried it since?

SPEAKER_07 1:31:07

No, because it's expensive.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:09

But you have you do have some.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:17

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:18

I feel like they sell that on our site.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:20

Probably not. Wait, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:23

I'm gonna have to look.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:24

Let me know if you do, because shoot. I mean, I wouldn't mind. I'm just saying. Like, I don't like I don't mind the show off now.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:29

Yeah, we can definitely um use that.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:31

Because it comes from like the a lot of the orders come from like California or overseas. Like my doctor gave me a script and I had to call a phone number, and it was like, all right, it'll be$300 for like 10 shots.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:41

Well, that doesn't sound expensive. Three to four hundred for ten shots? We can make money on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:46

Yeah, I love that. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:50

Can we compound that? We can totally make money on that.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:52

Hey, listen, we can be we can definitely work that out. Okay, we can work that out for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:56

$30 a shot? That's not expensive to me. I'm in.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:59

I like when you break it down that way. You're right. I knew better. I knew it.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:02

Okay, let's I'm gonna switch a little bit here. When we took a break, we were talking just about jealousy and things like that. How does that play into your world? I mean, have have you either one of you been jealous of each other during any you know group sex or reasons? Okay, all the time?

SPEAKER_06 1:32:20

All the time.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:21

Okay, we'll give them a don't get me wrong from both of you or yeah, and anybody who says you know they're they're that they don't know they don't have any issues they're lying. They're lying, they're lying.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:30

Okay, well, I I love that you're so honest with this.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:33

And that's where you have to be, and that's what we realized. And it's yeah, like before we even got to the point where we could be that we were open, but it was to the point where she had to know without a shadow of a doubt that no matter what, I picked her as my death buddy.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:49

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:50

You know what I mean? Like regardless. If tomorrow she wakes up if she got one toe and nothing else, then I'm not going nowhere.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:58

And so I have to do what I can every day to remind her that I'm not going no matter no matter what. And as long as she feels that, that helps the the thoughts, the the the jealousy feeling, this, that, and the third, insecurities or just just reservations about something. Right. Because most of the time, most women don't want to threesome because they're worried about their man enjoying that more, and it's not just that, right? It's that you're going to pick her and leave me. Yeah. Is what a lot of people are feeling without saying it externally. So when we go to from her just internally thinking that to verbally saying it to me and letting me know what she's feeling and why she's got an attitude that we haven't even done nothing yet, you know what I mean? Like you could sneeze wrong. Just so fucking nasty, you know. And it's like, where's this coming from? And we didn't know that there was she was feeling less than because you gave this person one too many compliments, or yeah, you were like just little things.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:55

Little, it's it's all I've said this a hundred times with my partner. It is all about he maintains eye contact with me no matter what. I mean, it's unbelievable, truly. And to that in itself, and of course, I have my boundaries. Like, here's what you're not going to do. We have ours, you know. There's like, I think I have two or three of them. But I was like, Yeah, they're they're not huge, but they're they're mine. And I will tell you, kissing is mine. You don't fucking kiss another person. That's mine. I understand. Yeah, it's more intimate than oral sex to me. Yep, correct. So, but I will tell you this the way he prepped me so well, even though he had never had a threesome and I had, but he's just a fucking genius. So he always thinks of this bullshit. He's like, Look, this is no different than using a toy, but it's a warm toy. And we're both going to have fun. It's a toy for both of us. And I have to tell you, when he talks about it like that, it changed my mindset completely. Because I would have been very jealous of him completely. But and then then the whole thing too, the the coming, he insisted on because we did it at a hotel, coming back to my house. He brought me in. I don't know, Kat, you've heard this a hundred times before. That's okay. It's a beautiful story. But he takes me by the hand. There's no talking. He's like, no talking. I had no idea what he was gonna do. He puts me in the shower. We both shower. He, I mean, he's showering me, he's washing my hair, washing my body, washing every place.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:18

He read my book.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:21

He's definitely a butt and a tet man, but it was it wasn't sexual, it was intimate. And then he, you know, got me out, he dried me off, still no conversation at all. And you know, dried put the towel around my hair and everything and took my hand, took me to the bedroom, and we laid there and just you know, laid there. And he's like, let's talk about recentering ourselves. And and I think that recentering piece is so fucking huge. I've never had a man do that to me ever. I mean, like even after normal sex or anything. But to me, the eye contact, follow my rules. I mean, and like I said, they're not horrible, right? But you're not fucking kissing somebody. Yeah, that's and then but he the whole eye contact thing, it was it was a game changer completely because it didn't matter what else was going on, he made sure he was looking at me. So and I like it.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:10

That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:11

You can use that, Lola. It's good, it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:14

See, here's the problem. I'm I'm a eye contact avoidant sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:18

Yeah, oh but during that, I do look at you a lot and you look at me a lot.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:23

Yeah, but I'm in trouble when you're looking at me a lot. Look, we we ain't gotta hide on the podcast. Folks know us, folks know us.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:30

Listen, tell us, tell us how tell us a situation where you guys were having group sex of whatever it is, and you felt jealous or a way that like that you had to look at him like you're crossing a line. Like it's what was the situation?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:44

What how do you know? Is it just the eye contact? Like, oh, okay, he's doing it.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:48

You felt that right? Yeah, yeah. All right, I like I don't even she didn't have to say my name. I can she can be across the room and I'm feeling path in us, and I can feel it. Yeah, and I'm like if I'm doing something, I'm just like, oh fuck, hey, I gotta go. It's it's like that, just like that. So yeah, it's some people have cold words, some people have signals, some people have different things for different situations because you believe it or not, we do have a have to plan for a lot of that because you can't account when you know maybe you are you got a dick down your throat and you're upside down, you gotta be able to wait a signal to your partner. Hey, squeeze his hands. Give me a squeeze, or she does a tap, or you know something. I ain't like it, and I'm yeah or if I can look and see her eyebrows moving, I'm like, all right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:31

I'm sitting there going, save me. So, what's your situation where you think you felt like you had to like rein him in?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:40

Or you were jealous, whatever it was. I mean, we all go through the jealousy. Oh, we all do, and yeah, sometimes with me, it's like if he looks like he's doing more than he's doing with me at that moment, it bothers me. Okay, but I mean it doesn't do it as much now, but it definitely did just because I that's what I wanted. Yeah, I wanted you to do more with me. And again, I just think that right, because we're in our minds, yeah. It's just in that moment that's what's happening. What do you have to what do you gotta say? I ain't saying nothing. I was just sitting there. Well, I was mad at my business.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:17

What's the moment that you got jealous, Devon?

SPEAKER_02 1:38:21

Of her. He doesn't get jealous a lot.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:24

But he said he did, he did, I do, but no one ever knows it.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:27

Okay, I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:28

It's because nine times out of ten, a lot of the jealousy is in your head. It right because you know for without a shadow of doubt, your partner is having fun. That's why we're here, is to have fun. Right. So if your partner looks like they're fucking enjoying fucking another woman, they probably are. Like they should. Like, if they didn't, why are you doing it? Makes zero sense. You want your husband to be like, yeah, we fucked another girl last night, but that was it. That's not that is boring. That's terrible. Like, that's and you're gonna be done faster than anything else.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:58

Yeah, and men want most men, I I won't say all men, most men want their women to feel incredible. They want to watch two women together. It's a visual thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:08

They do. I'm I'm going, I look, I'm I'm leaning all the way into my my superpowers now.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:13

The men that do want their wives to enjoy themselves, I you can't even say with other men or other or other partners, other whatever. The ones that actually enjoy and get off watching their wives have fun are there because they truly enjoy and they love that person that is there watching. Yeah, the ones that get upset when their wives or boyfriends are having too much fun typically are selfish thinking thinkers, or they're not they're there for the wrong reasons. Oh, we're we're here to spice up our relationship. It's the wrong fucking place. It's the wrong fucking place.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:45

We're here to fix this.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:46

That's not gonna fix your relationship.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:48

Or well, we just wanted to find a couple like us, so because we he cheated and then he said we and let's try it.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:53

What? Okay, we will leave. We will leave. Yeah, we don't blame those.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:58

And we don't allow those in to join our lifestyle group.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:01

If you're here because something happened. I mean, we did at the beginning, but we've also we've grown, right? Lifestyle members and group owners. So it's you you have to feel it, you have to talk, and once you realize we're here for the same thing, let's enjoy this, babe. We'll go, I'm coming home to you. I'm not, you know what I'm saying? Like that's yeah, reassure your partner first before anything else, and it it will go a long way, and you won't have as much to argue about later.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:27

What do you guys do like afterwards when you're in bed together? I mean, do you just do you I mean, do you talk either we fuck or then we don't sleep? Okay, either one, huh?

SPEAKER_07 1:40:36

Yeah, but at the beginning, like we would travel. We travel, so we would like we had a three-hour trip home, so we would get to have a conversation. Like, look, last night you did this, and I didn't I didn't really like that because I didn't see you first, and then all of a sudden there was a dick in your mouth, and I was I was caught off guard. I would expect to walk around the corner.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:51

In the beginning, we kind of did like things. Yeah, we did try things.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:55

We tried it, we tried the separate play and all that shit, but we also and then we didn't we changed it. We changed it to we're doing it together because we joined it together, and that's the part we enjoyed the most was getting to see you do it and have fun. It wasn't so I could control what you're doing. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:12

But that I think you're right. I think that's the thing is that you went into it and like we're gonna do this together. What's your favorite, favorite combination when the two of you have sex with other people? Is yeah, like give me the combination. What's your very favorite?

SPEAKER_07 1:41:25

Glory hole. What the glory hole?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:28

Oh, the glory behind the wall, glory hole? Yeah, yeah. We go to the hole. So like you're on one side and then like no, we go we go to glory hole. Other guys are on the other side.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:36

We we go to the bookstore and there's other men there, and there's a glory hole. I get to watch her do Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:41

Oh, wow. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:43

That was that's your favorite. What's your favorite? That's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:45

But we also used to do that like every single time after a party. We would go that was our reclamation thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:51

Yeah, on the way home, we'd stop at the glory hall and that's weird. That's fun. Then we'd fuck nut and go home.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:56

Yep. Okay, wait, wait. Because I've heard about these glory holes.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:00

These these mythical glory holes, right? They're just not here.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:04

No, they're they're here, they're in Ohio. Where?

SPEAKER_02 1:42:06

Because I was looking for one last night.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:08

What hold on, where? Because I'll have to call it. I was like, I got a I got a map of them across the U.S. Like where they is.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:15

I we hear about them.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:16

I was like, I I did OTR driving.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:18

Drives down from like Ohio to Florida and stops at all of them and like, oh my god, see, I love that. Yeah, yeah. He saw that in every state when he was traveling.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:25

I just wanted to see them, they're all different, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:27

Just big hole for the dick. Like, you can't get the balls in the hole or anything, it's just the dick.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:32

Unless you got a small one.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:34

Or the well, or is it squid, like, yeah, some places are like have different sizes and different stuff. Some places have hidey holes. I don't it's what's a hidey hole?

SPEAKER_02 1:42:43

Something behind it.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:44

That or something behind it, and they move it and it's there. Kind of like if you went to like you ever seen the movies where it's like a random truck stop gas station, and there's a hole in the wall that says it's more of a voyeuristic type thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:57

Yeah. I get it. Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:00

But these places, it's there's booths that have a small hole. There's booths that don't have no holes, large theater, small theater.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:07

Wow. And they're called bookstores. Okay, so wait, like they're called bookstores. Like like Lions Den bookstores or whatever. Yes. Okay, got it. So not necessarily the vote. Yeah, but just in general. Like sex bookstores or whatever.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:19

Sex stores. So them bookstores and stuff you always heard about adults, like me growing up. I I can recall people mentioning bookstores, going to bookstores, or Pee-Wee Herman or whoever it was that got arrested for jacking off in a movie. Yeah, in my brain, he was like at the movie watching like Top Gun jacking off or some shit. Yeah. Not realizing he was at a bookstore jacking off. Ah, got it. So him getting arrested at a bookstore like that, he was set up. It was a setup. It wasn't they walked in and just saw him there jacking off. No, he got somebody called and was like, I'm mad at him, so take him to jail.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:48

That's horrible.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:49

Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:50

Okay, so after you guys have had your night, you're telling me that you still have energy to go, to go recenter yourself.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:00

That gets me started.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:02

At a glory hole. You're doing it afterwards, though, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:44:06

Nothing's in there. It's in the city.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:08

I don't even care. It's okay. That's not a good idea. That's wild.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:14

I agree. I agree with you. It's fucking wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:17

I'm trying to think of the communication that had to transpire between the two of you over time to get to that point, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:23

I mean, no, she was still horny.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:26

Yeah. No, we knew that. No, we knew that enough rip.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:28

That's why I was like, oh, it's even better. Let's go to let's let's join the lifestyle.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:31

From before I'm before we met. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:33

That's what made me ask her. Like, you're ahead of threesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:36

Very sexual.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:37

People have asked me before, and that's another thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:39

Perfect. I am too, but you you're definitely way past me at this point. You do maybe, maybe somebody just having poked the right questions for you.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:47

He just brought that out of me.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:49

People ask me, like, man, how'd you even get your girl to even like be interested into it? That's like, I didn't it wasn't my idea. They was like, What do you mean? I was like, there's certain questions you can ask people to understand what they're into or how to ask them or how to bring it out of them. So tell me what you're into. Like when I'm seeing, I'm yes, I'm making assumptions. Don't judge a book by its cover, but that doesn't mean that the cover's that far off. So when I'm asking, she was like, She likes this, that, and the third. I was like, Okay, okay, now by the way, no judging, like I'm not a judger, I just like right some of this stuff's turned on to me. I was like, Oh, that's okay. She's like, Okay, cool. You ready to threes them? Cool. Which way? Two guys, two girls, both pet. Okay, well, you know, there's these places where they have parties, and you know, they do that and third, we can go just watch. We ain't gotta do nothing. We can just come check it out. Yeah, I think that's what a lot of people are realizing they're missing is stop trying to throw people to the fire.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:38

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:39

Just go go sit, go sit by it, go warm up from the fire. Don't just jump in it, go go sit by, warm up to it. And then if you don't like it, now you know. But if you do like it, great.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:47

And that's such great feedback. I literally, you're answering all my questions naturally, just so you know. I love that. But I it's just I'm with you on that. Go experience it. Yeah, like my nanny, and I think I mentioned this to you guys last night, she worked at the the Princeton Swingers Club, and she her first weekend there texted me, you have to come and see this. And and I did I didn't go that night, but I went later on. But it was like the over stimulation of 20-foot-tall porn going on when you walk in the door and how people dress so sexy and there's sex going on and hilarious. But it's overwhelming.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:29

It's like Halloween every weekend.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:31

Yeah, yeah. I mean, everybody's having sex in front of you. That too. And and I said, uh to me, it was like I I don't know how you ever go back to porn after watching live sex, which is the re which is the thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:43

Like that's literally why I I knew I was gonna enjoy lifestyle stuff, is because I was like, I love porn right, I liked porn, but I was like getting to watch it in person.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:52

Right, even better, yeah. And and you could join if you wanted to.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:56

Like I with permission, consent is always important first and only, nothing else matters.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:02

Yeah, agreed.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:03

Sorry, I had to get that.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:04

So, but I think I do think that in a way, I mean it I went there three times with her and just like just hung out with her at the bar, but then just going to walking through it, uh and I don't know, I think you guys have been there, but it's super big too. And so it's just one of those things. It's like I went home and told my husband, I'm like, You're not gonna believe this shit. We and then he was like, I want to go.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:27

We enjoyed Princeton when we went.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:28

Um time and then he went again.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:30

Yep, I went with a friend of mine, and it was the same, obviously, but it was just a different crowd to see. Yeah, because different events bring different crowds, right? Different nights bring different crowds.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:40

Yeah, they do have themes, yeah. Sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:43

Every every if it's open, it's got a theme.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:45

Yeah, what kind of theme?

SPEAKER_07 1:47:46

Like the most popular theme amongst lifestyles glow. Glow party. Yeah, okay. It's always glow party.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:51

Yeah, um, we've thrown we've done well, I was gonna say meth grade.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:55

We we did uh a summer bash with school girl, Valentine's Day party. We do did Pajama Jamie Jam. Haunted Maze was probably our favorite one. We did the Haunted Maze.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:07

Can we talk about this for a second? You guys said you started a lifestyle group. How does that work? So each talk about that. Yeah, each group is it kind of like you said, your friends that you met and then you became very close with, they're like their own group. So in a group, those groups go and like just have these parties like if they want to as a group.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:28

So there's some groups that are traveling groups, so they'll go to different clubs and different events and different people's parties. Then there's your communities that throw events like iOS, purely out of the states.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:42

What does iOS stand for?

SPEAKER_07 1:48:43

It's only sex.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:44

Oh, it's only okay. It's only sex. Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:48

Like calm down, it's only sex.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:49

That's really cool.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:50

So we again, so it ties back to that first party. That first party changed our lives. Whether they know it or not, whether they'll ever, you know, get to understand or feel that for us. We love them to death for it. Now, that group since then has split up a lot because the divorce happened. Shit, two of them gotten divorced. But it wasn't necessarily the lifestyle's fault they got divorced.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:14

Right, no, no.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:15

They had their own shit going on that they split up about. But that necessarily has dissolved because we were throwing parties with them every month in Indianapolis. But what I quickly learned, I I am I'm quick to go with the crowd, but not follow the crowd. Right. So I'll do it only for so long before I'm like, babe, I can't, I can't. I just can't. And I won't. And that type of thing. And if I'm there and you notice and you know me, it doesn't take long to be like, hey, what's wrong with mine?

SPEAKER_06 1:49:43

Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:44

And I'm like, what do you mean? They're like, you're not being yourself. The fuck am I supposed to be doing? Hanging from the ceiling? Yeah. Like, man, fuck y'all. So we we kind of back off certain type of events because like that event was geared towards more single guy brain hot wife type thing, which is fine now, but just again, then. Environment and the people involved was not very conducive to how I felt because I could hear people talking and I'm just like, You motherfuckers, you realize I can hear y'all, right? Like, no, you're not about to just come do whatever you want with my wife. I'm not sure. Yeah, like the fuck out of here. Oh, yeah. A lot of people always feel like they had something to prove if I'm around. Typical, typical. And I'm like, I never once even peacocked to pull my dick out. Because if I did, yours would go soft.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:25

Right. Let's be serious. It happens all the time. So another reason I just let her have fun. We'll have fun after.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:31

So you guys just have your own group at this point. Correct. So how many people? Yeah. Thanks.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:36

We have about over 1,500 across our groups.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:39

What groups? You have multiple groups.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:41

Different platforms. So we've got we use the Telegram group the most because again, us being the younger side of our group we originally started with, our group is essentially a decade younger on average to all of our other groups we hang out with. Cabin Party, we've been to is a group based out of central or northern Kentucky, Southern Ohio.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:00

Is that where Cali is?

SPEAKER_07 1:51:02

Yeah. Cincinnati area or I don't know Cali.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:05

I think she's I think she's over in Kentucky, like northern Kentucky or something.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:09

And she may be a part of Red Swing then. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:11

Monica.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:12

What did you call it? Red Swing. That's what you guys, your name. That's where we started.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:16

Our group is this one.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:17

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:18

So ours is inclusive.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:20

I wanted a word that meant everyone. But Red Swing is the cabin party. We went to it and we was like, how the fuck do you get 35, 36 adult couples to pay a f uh a fee to go and travel together?

SPEAKER_01 1:51:33

Like how much would a fee be for a party?

SPEAKER_07 1:51:35

So depending on what room you bought it, you can have your private room, which is the king size bed, and you're gonna pay a couple hundred dollars more, or you can have a shared room. Like for this cabin was two queen bunk beds, two double bunk queen beds in the same room. So four couples in this room. One couple, one, four, four, four. There's even some single bunks. You sold every bed. Single room by yourself, probably seven, eight hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:57

And you can you can go without a partner.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:00

Yeah. Okay. If the group allows, like some groups allow single men, some groups focus on single men. This is not very many single men at that time.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:09

There wasn't any. There was none at that one. Not the first one. Yeah, that's all crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:12

Because the next party we got asked about so and so we vouch for some people, which is wow. We get asked often, anyways. So we get to the party. I'm shocked. Instantly, I start thinking marketing bring like business side. Like, hold on, there's 70 people. This was six hundred dollars a person. Well, that's a lot of fucking money. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:30

Yeah. But like not at all. But that money goes, does that money go to the cabin, or does like the group?

SPEAKER_07 1:52:36

It goes back towards whatever was bought for the cabin. So like a lot of there's you can tell which ones are there for the money, which ones are there because they love it and enjoy it, and then there's the ones who are good at business.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:47

So are you making any money off of throwing these parties? Maybe like sometimes we can, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:52

Like originally we threw like nine free parties, and they were just Airbnb events.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:58

And so you would front the like you would pay for the Airbnb.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:01

So we so we we got smart. We had friends who were interested in lifestyle, they had Airbnbs, they had been in lifestyle longer than we had, but had never they had not made any friends. What so then we meet him at another at a pool party with the Red Swing group, and then we realized we were close by. So we linked up. We had I had already been working on making inclusive happen. And I was like, Well, if you got the place, I got the people. Let's do this. And we did. Sure enough, from that, we threw nine free ones. He was building a barnuminium.

unknown 1:53:35

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:35

So now we was going from a small Airbnb to 10,000 square feet on 26 acres.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:40

It was nice. Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:44

We threw fucking events, and I mean we had talent, we had DJs coming from Miami, Michigan, Tennessee, Alabama, events where people flew in from Texas, Cali, Alabama, Georgia, Florida. That's amazing. Michigan got pictures and everything of all these events and things we had done. And then that darker side of the lifestyle where people don't like to talk about sometimes. People get jealous, people get show envy, people start being different because they've now they've now changed, which is good. Like I have a mission statement. Like if you come to us, you came to us because you didn't necessarily have a place you felt like you felt in or fit in, or you didn't feel like you could be yourself somewhere because what you may be normally is not the social norm for like, say, a black man for me to go outside wearing, you know, some tight, you know, yoga pants that are just leggings or whatever, and a big fucking pink shirt or something. Like, you know, just being able to feel comfortable in your skin, no matter who's outside, you're gonna wear it outside and be like, bitch, it's mine about it. If it's not if you ain't fucking feeding or dealing with me, yeah, you don't matter. I figured out a way to get people to understand that whatever you're feeling matters. What they think about you, fuck them. It doesn't matter. So we started building that in people, and I could see the change in people happening. Well giving them confidence. So I'm whispering to her, I'm like, look, look, look, look, look, so-and-so's got a whole damn outfit. You ain't never seen him wear it. And I'm talking like ex-thugs and gangsters who for years, nine eighties, nineties, and two thousands, were selling crack and dope, who are now hanging out with a bunch of people that they would have never even spoke to on the street, right? Yeah. Wearing an outfit that you would that uh would get you beat up, yeah, where we're from, type thing. And they're running with it and like leading, not need leading into that, but they're being who they wanted to be without repercussion.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:29

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:30

And it I more so just enjoyed looking and watching everybody just be your people watching. Just be and just be. So the more people that kept being, some of them took that as oh, well, I'm him now. Okay, that's fine. That these particular people happen to be those some of that kind that decided that that's who they were. Hey, I love it for you. Like, I was what I wanted people to come to us new because that was the biggest part. The groups we were around didn't like new people.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:00

Because they're older. They're I'm not teaching you all, I'm not teaching this shit. If you don't know it, get the fuck away. Yeah, we got time. So we'll do it. So we started doing that, grabbing those people, and I'm like, look, you're you're gonna grow, you're gonna find something you like. Cool. A lot of people start finding what they liked and then felt like they had to hate us to go do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:17

Oh, that sucks.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:19

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:19

You know, and so I was just like, so But those are look, that's just life lessons. Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:24

And I loved it, and I'm okay with that. Huh?

SPEAKER_00 1:56:26

I was gonna say, what were we told about?

SPEAKER_07 1:56:28

Oh, uh always being yeah. A lot of the part I keep forgetting. I I'm I you will hear us reference ios and red swing for the rest of our lives because they were the two that showed us made an impression everything. They showed us everything. The red swing party we went to, we wound up meeting. Oh, it died, it's fine. Oh we we wound up meeting Heather and Jason from iOS because they were at that cabin party. They met us, they she's an empath too. We walked in the room and she said, I instantly saw y'all. Well, so did everybody else, Heather. But they she was like, No, no, no. She's like, I felt something else, and I was like, Yeah, she's like, I knew that when I saw y'all walk in, I felt X, Y, and Z. I said, Who the fuck told you that? And she was like, Nobody, and I was like, You're a witch. I knew it. And from that, I've talked to her with her being in the uh industry, so she's a legit, you know, porn star. So she's done films.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:18

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:57:18

And the difference between them, they have the business mind, they have the marketing mind. So they was like, Yeah, we'll do these adult films, but what's our cut? What's our split? What's our pay?

unknown 1:57:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:57:28

Oh, that's it. Okay, well, how do y'all do this shit then?

SPEAKER_00 1:57:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:57:32

We're gonna learn to do this. Fuck y'all. Yeah, and they learn, they did it, they so Vivid, y'all know the company Vivid. So they were with them originally, and they won an AVN award with Vivid. So that's why if you pull up Meet the Rallies, you'll see them pop up. Okay. They used to pop up first, yeah, and then we adopted the name.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:51

No, it's about the same.

SPEAKER_07 1:57:52

We just we just I feel like we're we're a lot more active than they are now. Okay, so we're gonna naturally pop up more now. And she did the industry side, he was the business marketing side of it, and the everything else, so they just snowballed, started parties down here in Cincinnati, and then they moved to Florida.

unknown 1:58:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:12

The year we joined and met them, the motherfuckers had just moved to Florida. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:15

So are they the ones that do they have a place at Secrets?

SPEAKER_07 1:58:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:21

No, or Gables or something. I heard that's a bit cool.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:23

There's a never heard of that one yet.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:25

That's that's like an old people community. Is that what is that radiant?

SPEAKER_00 1:58:28

Yeah, it's a caliente. That's where they're what's it called? I can't remember what it's called, but all the nudest resort? No, but all the older people are all having sex with each other and they all have like you're talking about TV.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:39

The villages, them motherfuckers is wild over there.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:43

Oh Lord. We got a family that lives down there. We're like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_07 1:58:47

I stayed down there, it's fun. So funny. But yeah, they they moved to Florida and they threw parties here for so long. They was like, we don't want the parties in states no more.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:55

Well, Hito.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:57

I mean, they yeah, they they go to Hito twice a year.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:00

And where Jamaica in Negro is in Negro, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:59:03

Negro, Negro, Negro, Jamaica. Okay, Hito, it's like a 400 unit like resort. No one they they let groups come in and you know reserve several rooms or whatever. No, oh, okay. It's apparently that'd be really hard to do to get 400 couples to come from the states over to Jamaica or around the world. Yeah, they did.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:21

Wow. I was gonna say I can't imagine being that hard.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:24

Yeah, I can either not a few years.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:26

It's hard. Really? It's hard because it's not a cheap trip. Okay, it starts out at like$5,000 to go.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:31

Okay, wow. But you get a week-long trip out of it, everything included, everything is done for you.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:37

Like the moment you get off the mind you these parties aren't just you show up and it's just a party all fucking weekend. It is that, but there's a like a event, there's an itinerary, there's a schedule to move things along to build in the experiences.

unknown 1:59:51

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:52

Not so much just fucking and drinking and smoking, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:59:54

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:59:54

Like, I'm gonna give you something to remember by like you might forget what you fucked yesterday, but you're not gonna forget that you ran through the house because you lost the volleyball game and you gotta be naked and while the jumping jacks. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're gonna remember that shit. And now I got a funny ass story to go home and tell my friends. So they did that, they started doing that, they brought us around, they showed us, and I the difference was I understand you gotta listen to people who've been there before who've done it. Oh, yeah. So when he was telling us that, yeah, man, that these people, they somebody called IRS and told them that they were throwing parties. Now, sex parties are illegal. So when like when like I'm like, if you ever see me perk up when you call like, say, a sex club, the fuck is that? That is don't go there if you hear somebody call it a couple of clubs.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:38

What do they call it? It's a club, it's like a uh lifestyle club.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:41

But it's a private club, it's called a lifestyle club. That way you know you can distinguish between a regular club, yeah. Lifestyle club.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:47

Okay, it's a different couple of crazy.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:49

Because you've been, yeah. Have you been to one? No, yeah. Okay, so you know that you walk in, you can bring your own alcohol, right? You can bring you know your duffel bag and stuff in to change into and out of clothing and stuff like that. If it's a good club, you're not gonna walk in and see anything sexual happening, right? You shouldn't be able to walk in and see naked people just yet.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:06

See, the old Princeton used to be that way. I don't think the new Princeton is that way.

SPEAKER_07 2:01:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:11

I was gonna say, yeah, when we went, it wasn't like that.

SPEAKER_07 2:01:13

It wasn't like it.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:14

Uh and I think they switched owners within the last five years or so. Possible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:01:19

But when once once I realized like this club was like a good atmosphere, it was easy to get in and relax and really kind of see and enjoy yourself. So if you got people who are new to the lifestyle and want to go to a club, or if you want to meet a couple, and like and you're both in lifestyle, you can meet at the club. It's a safe meeting point. And if great, you hit it off, you can go upstairs and play. If not, we can go away and go find something else.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:41

So, you guys are you now throwing parties too? Are you coordinating the whole thing or not? That's very cool.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:47

That is really cool.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:48

I really do hope, and I mean this from a business perspective, that you're charging enough that you make money off of it. Because that's in my mind, it to put that kind of time and energy into it, you pay for that, you pay for that life experience that someone's bringing to you.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:05

I'm glad you understand that.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:06

Okay. There's my took my business at. Put it on for a second.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:10

I'm glad you understand that because we we just we're going through a I won't say going, we're growing through a reset essentially at the moment.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:18

Right.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:19

One of them life lessons that come along and you see certain people for who they are, and you realize that you're all views no longer aligned, which is fine. It happens all the time, nothing wrong with it. Exactly. Nothing wrong with that. But again, you don't have to hate me to go off. No, go away. So you don't have to find a problem with me to go do your own thing. Please go do it. Yeah, you if you need help, let me know. I'm that person. Yep. We are they those people. We've always been those people. But the narrative that you know we are told afterwards is not that. I'm just like, well, that's funny. None of you all ever came and told me.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:53

Yeah. So that's okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:55

And that's fine.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:56

Everybody has their thing, right? It's we you we all know as you go through life, ever the the relationships sometimes have run their courses. They are what they are. Yeah, and that's it. Did okay. Well, I'm glad that you're doing that. I'm glad you're making, well, we'll be making money again.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:11

So yeah, no, no, don't be wrong. So again, first time we threw a part of Airbnb, everything essentially either free or we already had it, or we've already bought it at one point. So we got to bring it all together. If you want to bring donation at this time, great. If you want to bring something to share with everybody else, drink food, great. You want to bring extra condoms? Great.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:28

So where should people go if they want to like one of the two? That or that where should they go if they want to talk to you? Like and be part of it. Inclusive, right?

SPEAKER_07 2:03:36

Yeah, so inclusive. We you can go to w.lsinclusive.com. Okay. And that's gonna pull up our website.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:45

W or www. Yeah, the the third one.

SPEAKER_07 2:03:48

What w okay? That's no, that's a swing of shortcut. Yeah, so just lsinclusive.com on Facebook, it's inclusive. Telegram inclusive. It's it's just that.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:02

Cool. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:03

I like it.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:04

And I'll make sure when we post the show that we do those links to it all. It's it's all there.

SPEAKER_06 2:04:11

I like it.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:13

I don't think I have any more questions.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:15

I know, I feel like we've got pages, but it's because I feel like we've already answered.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:19

Yeah, you guys have covered so much and even so much more than I thought. So thank you for that education. It's been amazing. Oh my Lord, we could. Yeah, go, yeah, go right ahead.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:33

So, like, if you could give one piece of advice to other couples um where one partner is excessively well endowed, well, what would it be?

SPEAKER_07 2:04:42

You say when you got one partner well endowed, like be humble about it. Like, don't don't there's there's one thing to have big dick energy, and then there's to be there's there's a difference to being a big dick with a lot of energy.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:03

Yeah, that's a great, that's a great answer. That's true. Like you and and I love the fact that you're very conservative about it.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:13

I just didn't know when I pulled it up. It was like, damn, and I was like, What? What's wrong with it? I didn't get naked for four parties. It was wild.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:21

Yeah, four parties. Anything else, Kat?

SPEAKER_07 2:05:24

No, Shay, you what's your one piece of advice? No.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:28

Oh, yeah, I think so. Lola.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:31

Because I mean, it's only so much I can get from my standpoint. I'm not a a lady, so I don't always Okay, so how about this then?

SPEAKER_01 2:05:37

Like after all these years, how much does 15 inches actually matter to your relationship and happiness versus all the other things that make a marriage work?

SPEAKER_02 2:05:44

Oh, it doesn't matter naturally.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:47

Yeah, yeah. That's a great bonus.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:49

Yeah, it's because she's already got it. Yeah, it don't matter now, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 2:05:52

It's just like the the cherry on top kind of thing that you um especially with him, like right.

SPEAKER_07 2:05:58

I say she's gay, she just likes my penis.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:00

Yeah, I'm pretty gay, but well, first of all, we're not judging here, sir.

SPEAKER_07 2:06:04

Yeah, I would never yuck somebody else's yum. No, absolutely. That's not my thing. Just I know her very well.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:11

Secondly, okay. Anything else, Kat? No. Okay, well, I did one, I think I had one more question that I just thought of, though. Is when you when you guys just have do you ever just have sex on your own, just the two of you? Oh yeah. Okay. All time. Okay. And and is it more romantic, like, or is it more uh give us or is it more just fucking, you know, because I do both with my partner. Yeah, we I mean we do both. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:41

I do like a little more than what she does to me. No. Okay, yeah, I do. So there's sometimes that it's it's romantic.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:06:52

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:53

Okay, good. I mean, because I think as women, we need both sides of that. Now, listen, I like a and this is so funny. I will start out. I'll be like, I need I need you to make love to me. That's what I do. And and and he and he literally laughs at me. He's like, Okay, well, for five minutes, I'll do that. And you are you're the one who changes. You're the one that's like, no harder. Fuck me harder.

SPEAKER_07 2:07:16

Pull my hair and stick your thumb in my eye. I don't know. Wow, it gets real weird.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:21

I think I promised a giraffe once.

SPEAKER_07 2:07:23

It was like we get one.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:24

Okay. I'm I'm glad to hear that though, because it I as women, we do need that softer side a little bit, even though you have very masculine energy and I do too. So I just think that Damn, she did she read your profile as well. Like she listened, she knows you. I can just feel it. But I I mean, you know, we we're willing to go with all the hard stuff all the time, but every once in a while, I'm like, I need that.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:50

I think with the romantic stuff, like I feel it more when after we're done with somebody else.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:58

I feel more than that. Someone else said that to us.

SPEAKER_00 2:08:00

Do you remember that?

SPEAKER_01 2:08:01

It was candy, wasn't it? Or was it candy?

SPEAKER_00 2:08:02

It was Candy and Curtis. Was it? It was, yeah. That they feel more connected and want that intimacy after having sex with other people. Yeah. Yep.

unknown 2:08:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:16

For sure. Okay. Oh, wait, before we go, yeah, like two things. Squeeze. So one, back around Christmas, after Christmas, right?

SPEAKER_04 2:08:25

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:26

Yeah, we went to LA. So we done some things in LA that are coming out that we can't talk about just yet.

SPEAKER_00 2:08:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:33

But it's one of those things. So yeah, so you can like watch Lola Riley's page, not mine. I was like, Yeah, I was just there.

SPEAKER_00 2:08:40

Link Tree, Lola Riley69. Link Tree and Lola Riley69. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:46

And got to see what Hollywood was about. So that was fun. Uh-huh. Hollywood. Yeah, me either. Never got to see how Hollywood magic is made until we made it. So that was fun. Then after that, so from that, same thing. They asked us if, you know, when you want to go home and shoot a reclamation scene.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:06

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:09:07

That's a part of it.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:08

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:09:09

So we still gotta do. Um because it's one thing. Like the well, like if you ever like homework is what you're saying. Yeah, like if you look at our porn hub, like all the majority of our stuff is POV.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:19

Yeah. I mean, that's mostly our content.

SPEAKER_07 2:09:21

Yeah, our content is POV. So real stuff that people love is that it's the number one thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:26

So that's like it's recording, like if I remember a great.

SPEAKER_07 2:09:29

Hold on, wait, hold on. Okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:31

Yeah. Unless we actually set things up.

SPEAKER_00 2:09:34

Right. Because you have to like wear the camera. I mean, there's all kinds of stuff that happens.

SPEAKER_07 2:09:38

I'm about to get the meta glasses next.

SPEAKER_00 2:09:42

I've been seeing them more and more, and I'm like, Yeah, listen, that's a business expense, sir.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:47

Right then I'll click.

SPEAKER_00 2:09:49

Okay, so I love that. So you guys, you have something coming out. Do you have a timing on that at all?

SPEAKER_02 2:09:54

Not yet.

SPEAKER_00 2:09:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:55

Will you I know it should be here soon?

SPEAKER_00 2:09:58

Will you keep us posted? Like I expected in the group text. Oh, yes. Okay. And then what was the other thing?

SPEAKER_07 2:10:03

And then the other thing, so shout out to our friends, Heather and Jason at iOS. They wanted us to share with you all too as well.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:10

Good.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:10

They're always, like I said, out of the states type events and parties, like experiences that you're not going to get anywhere else.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:16

Have you guys been to one of those? Yeah. Not out of the state. Not outside the state.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:20

Yeah, but they throw takeovers. So usually when they finally somebody allows somebody to fully take over their place, they fill that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:27

And they they filled up secrets for the first time when they let one group do it, because they'll let multiple groups, but they let them do it. And this, you know, 60-room place had over almost 2,000 people at the party all weekend. It was wild. But iOS is, if you're looking for your next level adults-only experience, you need to check out what iOS and Connect iOS Connections and Raw Records are doing this year. June 13th through the 18th, they're bringing a completely different vibe down to Temptation and Cancun, featuring award-winning DJ uh Vavo and DJ Manifesto, plus four more insane DJs and producers.

SPEAKER_00 2:11:00

And where's that at again?

SPEAKER_07 2:11:01

So that'll be in Cancun, right? Cancun. Temptations. So Temptation Cancun.

SPEAKER_00 2:11:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:11:06

And then taking over Secrets Hideaway in Kissimmee, Florida. Which will be there this year, July 16th through the 19th. And if you haven't been, they're more than they're over half booked. So this would be like the perfect type of thing for you all to go. Like we would love for y'all to go. Matter of fact, I'll I will set that up to where if y'all want to come down and shoot your podcast and you can get people from all over.

SPEAKER_00 2:11:30

We could just do shows from there. It would be fun because we've been wanting to go to a club. Right.

SPEAKER_07 2:11:34

You would have so much content because there are so many people from all over who and what are the dates on that again? So this is July 16th through the 19th.

SPEAKER_00 2:11:43

And where is it again?

SPEAKER_07 2:11:44

Kissimmee, Florida.

SPEAKER_00 2:11:45

Oh, okay. Orlando. So it's only it's yes.

SPEAKER_07 2:11:48

Yeah, Orlando's right there. Yes, for sure. For sure. 30 minutes down the road, and you at Kissimmee. Yes. Yeah. And so they'll, you know, they'll be there. And their their group is the dirty dirty perfs, is what their group is called. So like They have heart, they have hats to say iHeartDP. It's my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:02

Then your sign up there he says epic shit. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:06

You can't do epic shit with normal people.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:08

Okay, that's very cool. I love that.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:10

Yeah, they've got two of those hanging up in their house.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:13

That's funny.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:14

That's exactly what she does. She just said it. And two of those in the house. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:18

Amazing. Well, I first of all, I love all that. And as we post things, please feel free to, you know, tag our absolutely our stuff, and we will uh do as much as we can do with that for sure. And I don't mind doing it repeatedly. That's how we all grow, and that's the way I look at that.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:36

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:37

Okay. Anything else you want you guys want to share with us? Because you've been so amazing.

SPEAKER_07 2:12:42

My mouth's dry. I think I'm done.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:44

Here you're my piece of gum. I had to chew a piece of gum. Oh no, that was gross. Remember?

SPEAKER_01 2:12:49

Oh, we didn't like it. They might no no no.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:52

Listen, I threw that shit out and I put bubble gum in there.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:54

Of course you did. I love all your I was gonna say, I love all your bubble gum.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:59

I just think it lay around. You see the big bags? There's huge bags in the big gags. And it's I have it everywhere. Just be and it and that just that little quirk in me started about six months ago, and now I'm like addicted to it. So I chew it for 30 seconds and then spit it out.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:16

Yeah, you can.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:17

That's all I just want the sugar rust. You got ADHD. It's okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:20

It's all right.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:21

Okay. So I cannot thank you both enough. I mean, what an incredible show. Truly. Thank you. Thank you so much. And I can't, can we do it again? I mean we're gonna we're we have to do it. You all gonna be the reason I we get back to our podcast and anyway. I love it. I love it so much. And look, we can do if whenever we're all together, we can make it happen. You can post and we can post. It's all good.

SPEAKER_07 2:13:45

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:46

But thank you both for coming. And then I always need to thank Kat because she's so fucking funny and smart and sassy and sexy on top of it all.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:56

She's adorable.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:56

She is adorable, literally adorable. And then I don't know why I added this here, but I do know why.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:04

Yeah, I wondered what that was.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:07

Okay, you all are too young for this, but there used to be this TV show on with Telly Savalas. Do you guys know who Telly Savalas is? Okay, I can't remember what the show was called, so bear with me on this. But he was a bald guy, he was like a detective, and it was just this really cool show. But I was really young when it was on, but he always had a sucker in his mouth, like a like, I don't know, like a Tootsie Roll sucker. And when he would be leaving someplace, he'd be like, Who loves your baby? And I'm like, I kind of want that. That tagline has never ever been used since him. No one knows what it is. Who loves your baby? That's what I I'm just loving it for some reason.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:46

I love that.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:46

So for us, if you would like to drop us any of your opinions, feedback, questions, send an email to info at the vixenchronicles.com and it's a VXN. And please feel free to follow us on blah blah. Easy for me to say. Please feel free to follow us on Spotify, iHeart, Apple, any place else that I can get cat to add it to because you know that's just what we're doing now. So thank you all for listening. We appreciate you all very much, and goodbye.